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coup

05-02-2007 11:33:21




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we have to make 49inch feel for garage floor before running concrete floor...everyone say not to use dirt-redclay.....we have some creek gravel but not enough.




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Billy NY

05-02-2007 12:31:41




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 Re: garage build in reply to coup, 05-02-2007 11:33:21  
Not much detail here, but compacted fill placed for subgrade under a concrete slab, needs to have various sizes of fine and coarse aggregate and a certain moisture content to compact 95%-100% it all depends on the material specific to your area. Also the material should be well drained, if your red clay is similar to ones I've encountered, it's got too many silt like fines to be well drained, packs and hardens like rock when dry, and is like grease when wet. If it freezes under the slab and is wet, it will expand which could heave the slab or cause fractures, voids when it thaws etc. Boney gravel is the slang term for run of bank gravel, unscreened, right out of the bank into the truck, if it's got enough fines and the round stones are not too big, makes a good material for sub base, especially if the depth of that material is a few few feet, run over with a vibratory roller and compact.

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Stan in Oly, WA

05-02-2007 17:34:57




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 Re: garage build in reply to Billy NY, 05-02-2007 12:31:41  
Hi Billy,

What you call boney gravel sounds like what we call pit run in this part of the country (Pacific NW.) Or is pit run something different?

I've noticed that a person on this forum can't get any better advice than when they ask a question that falls in your area of expertise and you answer it. NY commercial building construction with either a lot of experience or a lot of overlap with residential construction? Would that be a general description of what you've done for a living?

All the best, Stan

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Billy NY

05-02-2007 22:45:59




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 Re: garage build in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 05-02-2007 17:34:57  
Hi Stan,

That would be the same thing, they write R.O.B. on the delivery ticket, same thing, taken right from the bank or pit. It's funny how the names change for the same material, crushed stone out here, that is used for road sub-base, NYS D.O.T. approved, commonly referred to Item #4, some people call it crusher run.


I did a lot of things in my career, covered a lot of ground in a short period of time, been around construction since I was a young kid. Heavy on experience, lot of high rise buildings and quite a bit of residential, light commercial earlier on. I could get into a lengthy detailed description of my career, knowledge and experience but in short, started in the trades, site work, heavy equipment, 2 yr deg civ eng., also NYU bldg. const mgt, and became a senior project manager. Like you said, just a lot of experience, always looking to learn something too. Pick up on things very quickly, have done many kinds of projects, always hands on at each one, been on a lot of job sites, and done a fair amount in dollar value, well over $500 million in new out of the ground projects, which is a considerable amount of experience as an individual, but nothing to brag about, just a number. Some people will far exceed that number, by leaps and bounds, with some of the mega jobs going out there. Just fortunate to have been on a lot of different types of projects where learning, and experiences were abundant.

In good faith towards a site that is such a familiar face, I really enjoy trying to help out, some of the construction questions are very familiar to me, so it's hard not to contribute, and that's real nice compliment Stan, there are probably lots of people who forgot more then I'll ever know LOL !!

Seriously though, just being a good neighbor, one should always help where you can. I think we all share what we know here, everyone has a chance to shine in that regard, and that's the best part of contributing, everyone makes a good team effort to help across the board, which is the most important part of it all, showing the willingness to share that knowledge, no matter what it is.

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coup

05-02-2007 15:47:05




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 Re: garage build in reply to Billy NY, 05-02-2007 12:31:41  
thanks,,,,,got about twenty ton of creek gravel and he can get cement discards for $7 a ton plus delivery..... .



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