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Sal

05-17-2001 09:54:31




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Looking to buy an electric Angle Grinder, don't have a lot of use for one, but when I need one I hate to borrow one. I expect that I will use it for about 20-30 minutes a month at most. Anything out there that is of reasonable quality for around $80?

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BFO

05-25-2001 19:30:40




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
I make my living with my tools as well, and here are my observations;
I use 7" and 4 1/2" Walter (Metabo) exclusively for grinding and cutting. Excellent power, and comfortable to use. I haven't been able to kill one yet. The 7" even has a rotating handle, making out of position work easier. I have a 7" Ryobi that I keep a large wire cup brush on. This has proven to be very reliable and powerful grinder too, but it's not as comfortable as the Walter. The Ryobi replaced a Makita that's casing blew apart. For a small wire cup brush I have an old BD Automotive Series 4 1/2 ", with the paddle switch. This has been a gutless grinder from new, and I hate the paddle.
For using the blending or flex wheel I have a Craftsman 4 1/2". I bought this on sale, and have regretted it ever since. It's actually my second or third one, as I've had to exchange it a couple of times before the warranty was up. The handle would literally fall off.
So I've learned my lesson, as each off-brand fails, I check out who's got a Walter/Metabo on sale, and only have to by the thing one time.

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Kermit

05-25-2001 01:24:22




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
I have a Makita grinder that my dad got for me. It's been a good unit, but I like Milwaukee tools.



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Dave K

05-23-2001 21:12:17




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
Don't know how you pick out the decent cheapies.
My buddy and I each bought one and mine lasted 20 minutes-literally. Mikes about two days. Bought a
Makita and it's fine. You get what you pay for if
you don't have the luck of some of these posters.



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Mark Kw

05-20-2001 14:36:49




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
I'm a welder and use grinders every day to make my living. I'm going to rattle off here a bit and know I'll be sure to step on someone's toes but what I am about to say is based on what I've seen for the last 15 years in the real world.

4.5" elect. grinders in no particular order:

Milwaukee- Ok but I hate the swicthes and they lack power for the price tag. Nothing special to brag about.

Metabo- very good all around. No complaints at all and is worthy of bragging about. A real powerhouse too.

B&D- used to be good years ago but the new stuff is terrible.

DeWalt- about the same as milwaukee but I do like their feel better than the Mil. nothing special about these either.

Porter-Cable- I place these just a bit higher than the Metabo and at the top of my favorite list. They are a beefy machine and have great power to really lay into a wheel. While the price is up there so is thier bragging rights for quality. In addition, this one is about the quietest running of any of them.

Snap-On- overall not a bad machine but has the same stupid swicth style as the Milwaukee and DeWalt.

Ok, so there's the scoop in my opinion. Now, I run my own business and my tools take a real beating in the work I do. I hate to take an expensive tool out only to have one little ooops and watch it fall 30' to splatter on the concrete. I bought one of the Harbor Freight grinders for $20 back around '94 with the idea that if it ends up splattered, who cares.

While I like my Porter-Cable the best, it stays in the shop. In my service truck you'll find 5 H-F grinders. One with a cut-off wheel, one with a cup brush, one w/ a stringer bead brush and one w/ a grinding wheel. The oldest one was going on 6 years of hard abusive use and finally died a few months ago. The case got broke and I glued it together with PVC cement about two years ago.

Right now, I own about 20 of these grinders, each somewhere with some sort of attachment on it. Nothing worse than wasting time swapping brushes or wheels when it's much easier to grab a different grinder. As for the noise, yep they make a lot and keep right on going. I don't baby these either. I run 6" cut-off wheels, 5" knot cup brushes, 7" mounted grinding wheels as well as the stuff you're supposed to use on them. Aside from missing skin on my knuckles from using the over sized attachments, no real problems. The big plus is that these will run 120 volts AC or DC for anyone that has an engine drive welder that only puts out DC current.

There is one problem with these H-F grinders. Unless you recess cut the wheel retaining nut, they won't hold a .030" cut-off wheel tight.

Someone said about grease on the gears. I will agree that using #1 will melt but it will also run out of most, if not all, grinder heads at some point. These cases are not sealed completely as most have a shaft locking pin through the case. You need to use a high tack high temp grease. Personally, I like the Mystik JT-6 high temp. I use this for everything from the grinders to wheel bearings to heavy equipment. This is not the only brand that has a good high temp high tack grease but it's the only one I will give my stamp of approval and the only one I use in my personal equipment.

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ltf in nc

05-19-2001 06:26:27




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
From any pawnshop, a good 4 1/2 inch Milwaukee for around $40 is hard to beat. Good Luck



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Ray,IN

05-18-2001 21:45:50




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
I use mine about the same as you say you will. I bought a 4 1/2 in. from a traveling sale, for $9.95. It's been 2 yrs. now and now problems yet. I keep in mind though, you really do get what you pay for- so if it quits tomorrow I can't complain.



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Jon Hagen

05-18-2001 10:37:48




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
One thing to add, after years of having gear drive power tools,everything from harbour freight to industrial Black& Decker. The gears are screaming dry while gobs of hard #2 grease are all around them. You dig it out and repack and the same thing happens again in a few hours. I found out that #1 grease will melt and flow into the gears with the least bit of heat from the tool. Have done this for several years now, the gears are lubed and quiet and the #1 grease doesn't leak from the gear cases.

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Tyler(WA)

05-18-2001 08:52:58




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
I have to throw my hat in with DumbOLeBob. I went slumming and bought a cheap piece of Chinese junk at Harbor Freight for $19. I know it's junk and won't last but I couldn't pass up the deal.

It's such a piece of junk that I bought another just for a knotted wire cup.

They make an awful racket and you know they won't last another hour. I'm sure they'll die the next time I use 'em but I've been saying that for two years now. I use 'em a lot too.

Rotten piece of junk! Won't even die and let me make amends by buying a decent grinder for 3 to 4 times as much.

I guess I'll be stuck with these for life.

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VaTom

05-18-2001 09:13:19




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 Re: Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Tyler(WA), 05-18-2001 08:52:58  
Hi Tyler, glad you're doing well with Harbor Freight tools. I had one of your grinders. The switch didn't last long. OK, a trip to Radio Shack and a hole in the body. Not too bad for $19. Then the bevel gear went out. It was pot metal! I bought a Makita that's been just fine. And the paddle switch is really more comfortable to use. I buy electric tools from Harbor Freight but only name brands. Nothing fails while sitting on the shelf, only when you're trying to use it. My Makita has already outlasted three of those Harbor Freight cheapies. And still going strong.

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Russ

05-18-2001 05:08:39




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
Hi Sal, the guys are right on when they say 4 1/2". This is important because there are 4" and 5" grinders also but the wheels are less common. Also check out the arbor size, 5/8x11 is the standard, important when you want to run a wire brush or cup. Beware of metric arbors on some cheaper grinders, even with an adapter. How long will that adapter stay where you can find it? I don`t doubt that the DeWalt grinders are good, but in the trades you see Metabo and Milwaukee most, with the Milwaukee the far and away favorite. I`ve seen many Milwaukees stand up to daily use for several years. Get the "old" style with the paddle switch. It has plenty of power and is easier to hold. Russ

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Scott Green

05-18-2001 02:59:44




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
This is a little more expensive than what you want to buy. But if you want a very good grinder , buy a Metabo , and never have to buy another one. At least not for the amount of use you claim to give it. I also agree with the one other post , buy a 4-1/2" grinder. If you buy a Metabo 4-1/2" grinder , you will be able to use 5" wheels on it. Who knows , down the road you may start to use it more and more.

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DumOLeBob

05-17-2001 15:29:19




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
Funny you should ask....I was just thinking about ALL my many angle grinders. I've got three, no four, Dewalts. One Milwaukee & one "other". The Dewalts are really fine. The Milwaukee has the most "POWER", and the "other" is the one I use more than all the rest - combined. It just so happens the "other" has the wire brush I use the most so it runs the most. It sounds awful! RATATATATATA, but it keeps on working. I keep on wondering when it'll die so I can switch the brush to a "Country Club" grinder. It won't die! But, one day it will & I'll toss it - AND probably get another from HARBOR FREIGHT FOR $19.00 I know what you're thinking. I thought the same thing, but go figure! For occasional home shop use you can buy three or four from Harbor Fgt for what you'll pay the BIG BOYS!

Finally, if you've just got to have a Dewalt or Milwaukee buy it on Ebay or order it from Amazon.Com You'll save lots of $$$$$$$

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Tom

05-17-2001 17:11:08




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 Re: Re: Angle Grinder in reply to DumOLeBob, 05-17-2001 15:29:19  

Get a 4 1/2" one, much handier than a 7" or larger. And as for the noisy one, take it apart and put some grease in it and a drop of oil in the motor bearings if they are bushings.



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Dean

05-17-2001 12:38:01




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
I got my DeWalt for around $60 (Menards) and I'm very happy with it.



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Jerry B

05-17-2001 11:50:38




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
It bears repeating.....Dewalt.



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buck

05-17-2001 10:42:48




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  

I also say Dewalt



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F14

05-17-2001 09:56:48




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 Re: Angle Grinder in reply to Sal, 05-17-2001 09:54:31  
DeWalt.



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jimmyz

05-17-2001 23:35:43




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 Re: Re: Angle Grinder in reply to F14, 05-17-2001 09:56:48  
milw. is best grinder



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