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don t-9n180179

04-29-2007 03:59:08




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Im looking at a new 18' 7,000# GVW trailer. Thanks to the archives, you-all have answered all my questions related to size, wt, brakes, etc.

Now its a matter of.....
..... PT pine vs painted diamond plate.
..... dove tail vs tilt.
..... good/bad reviews on Road Warrior brand.

Thank you for your time.
I do appreciate it. .....don t. .....




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Randyr

06-01-2007 21:00:39




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 Re: Trailer opinions in reply to don t-9n180179, 04-29-2007 03:59:08  
How about an aluminum trailer? Imagine never needing to paint it. And they look cool too.
http://www.kellytrailers.ca/



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wdTom

05-03-2007 18:00:17




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 Re: Trailer opinions in reply to don t-9n180179, 04-29-2007 03:59:08  
A tube is a better frame than a chanel. However you cannot see the inside of a tube to tell when it is rusting and how rusty it is. That's why the tube frames on the trucks we are buying now scare me, and why I wouldn't get a tube frame on a trailer if I could avoid it. And how do you paint inside a tube?



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135 Fan

04-29-2007 09:14:24




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 Re: Trailer opinions in reply to don t-9n180179, 04-29-2007 03:59:08  
A wood deck would probably be lighter and less slippery and more versatile for anything you might want to move. A tilt is nice but look for one that has a cylnder on it to control how fast it tilts. I'm not sure they have them on smaller trailers but on bigger ones it's a must. You don't want the trailer to come slamming down or flip back in a big hurry. Another thing to look for is a trailer made out of rectangular tubing. Most trailers are made out of channel but even if the tubing is a thinner wall thickness it will have more rigidity and almost no flexing as opposed to channel that will flex. I have 7000 lb. axles on mine that are the torsion type without springs. They are superior to springs with no maintenance needed. They also pull a lot nicer. Because each wheel has it's own independent suspension it doesn't bounce all over the place when you hit a bump. If you get ramps, make sure you have something to support the back of the trailer so it's not lifting up on the coupler. Couplers are designed for pulling, not lifting. Bull dog couplers are better if there is some lifting on them. That's why horse trailers use them. You could look into getting a trailer built just the way you want it for what you intend to haul. Then if you find a good builder they can use a formula to figure out exactly where the axles should be located in relation to tongue loads etc. rather than just guessing like most trailers are. These are things I found out when I got my trailer. As soon as you find someone who knows what there talking about you'll know. What did it for me was I asked one place the difference between channel and tubing he couldn't give me an answer. He said, you're a welder you should know. I said I'm a welder not an engineer. When I went to the place where I got my trailer the owner showed me. He built one trailer with channel just to compete with the other guys. You could see the channel flex and twist if someone stood on the corner and someone else bounced up and down on the diagonal corner. That sold it for me. I came at the right time because he was expanding and I traded my welder for the trailer and $2000. I would have liked to keep the welder but having an extra $2000 and getting to weld my trailer myself after it came out of the jig was a bonus. Hope this helps. Dave

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Stumpalump

04-29-2007 07:06:06




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 Re: Trailer opinions in reply to don t-9n180179, 04-29-2007 03:59:08  
Some new trailers are sold with tires and rims gotten from junkyards. They can be ok but won't have trailer tires. I have a 18' dove tail with pine floor and It's better than the last non-dovetail by far. They can nail you for ramps also so make sure your talking apples to apples when it comes to trailers, ramps and tires.



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jmixigo

04-29-2007 06:59:11




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 Re: Trailer opinions in reply to don t-9n180179, 04-29-2007 03:59:08  
If ya want two tractors on a load, load the first on tilt, lock down an load the second on ramps. A tread plate floor will last 20 years or more so why replace it? Though if ya feel the need wood will screw down on tread plate as well as it will anywhere else. I've never found wet steel to be so slick that it was a problem on a trailer, but if it was then I'd mix a pound of coarse sand with a gallon of black Rustoleum and apply with a roller.

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Ryan - WI

04-29-2007 05:38:01




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 Re: Trailer opinions in reply to don t-9n180179, 04-29-2007 03:59:08  

I would say go with a wood floor. A tread plate floor gets plenty slick when wet. I assume the tilt is between the wheels and the beaver is over the deck. If it were me, I would want the extra width.



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54 Super H

04-29-2007 04:39:41




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 Re: Trailer opinions in reply to don t-9n180179, 04-29-2007 03:59:08  
I would go with the PT floor and dovetail. The wood is easier to replace when the time comes and if you load a second tractor on the trailer it is nearly impossible with a tilt.



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jmixigo

04-29-2007 04:38:50




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 Re: Trailer opinions in reply to don t-9n180179, 04-29-2007 03:59:08  
Tilt Tilt Tilt the feller that owns the company I work for is a car collecter. In the course of his buying, selling, an swapping I'll sometimes haul a car for him. One of his three trailers is a tilt an it gets pulled twice as much as the other two put together. Most all of the tilts will be tread plate. Ramps are a pain however they're done, and popping up the rear end of the tow vehicle, or messing some kind of prop for the back end of the trailer is another pain.

Don't know anything about Road Warrior. I figger that if a feller can make trailers for two or three years an not get sued out of exsistance then his product is at least safe. Look at it real close an if you like what you see it's likely OK. Most everbody uses the same axles, brakes, lights, hitches, etc. anyway.

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