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Marc in Va

04-23-2007 12:33:11




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Hi Guys,
Our old house was built in the thirtys and had a really big pressure tank. On that old house, pump turned on at 40 psi and off at 60 psi. My wife and I moved into a small ranch house built in 1977. New house has a small pressure tank that turns on at 20 psi and off at 40 psi. Can I turn the pressure up or is that as good as it gets? Pressure at the faucets is not too terribly bad, but could be better. Waddya think?

Thanks much!
Marc in Va

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coldiron

04-23-2007 23:32:46




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 Re: OT house water pressure in reply to Marc in Va, 04-23-2007 12:33:11  
Marc, You can turn the pressure up and you can also adjust the spread between the on and off settings on the pressurestat. You might create problems with the plumbing such as leaks in the system. If you are going to increase it, I would check the system with a Hydrostatic test to see if it will hold the new set pressure.



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Charles (in GA)

04-23-2007 13:42:25




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 Re: OT house water pressure in reply to Marc in Va, 04-23-2007 12:33:11  
Your old system was probably a drilled deep well. 4 or 6 inch casing and 200 ft or so deep. Most deep wells use 40-60 pressure settings. You probably have a bored well at the new place. 30 inches or so in diameter, a concrete smooth culvert type pipe casing going anywhere from 30 to 60 ft deep. For some reason, most of the shallowed/bored wells around here in GA have 20-40 switches and pumps. You need to determine that your pump is up to the higher pressure. Look at technical info on the pump or talk to a local well expert to determine if the pump is capable of having the pressure raised this much. Wouldn't want to see you burn up a pump because it isn't rated for the higher pressure.

Second issue, and just as important, it the tank. Your old well probably had a plain galvanized metal tank (you said it was "large") that has an air head directly in contact with the water. Probably had a sniffle valve on the side of the tank to maintain the air/water levels in the tank, as air will asorb into the water over a period of time and this type of tank will become water logged and cause constant cycling of the pump.

Your new well has a "small" tank, probably a bladder tank or captive air tank. The air charge in the bladder MUST be set so that it is (in PSI) two to five psi less than the pump on (low number) pressure switch setting. This allows the bladder to be pushing water out of the tank when the pump kicks in. Better for the bladder as it doesn't fully expand and contact the inside of the tank, and also prevents you from losing water flow momentarily just before the pump cuts in.

Pressure switches are manufactured for operation in certain specific ranges. While they do have some adjustment your present 20-40 switch will not properly adjust to 40-60. If it does adjust that far, you will probably lose the 20 psi spread and the switch will not operate properly. A trip to Lowes, Home Depot, Menards, your local hardware store, etc, will get you the proper switch, pre-set, but don't forget to adjust the charge in your air tank (providing it is rated for the higher pressure, a few are not.

Charles

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GeneMO

04-24-2007 14:37:03




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 Re: OT house water pressure in reply to Charles (in GA), 04-23-2007 13:42:25  
I have had two wells drilled in the last 3 years. First one 300' and hit sea sand so they had to case it all the way.

Second one was about 100 yards from a big sink hole. We had to go 460' and case it most of the way. On this last one they buried the pressure tank and all the controls, I didn't have a heated place or want to build a pump house. They claim the buried system works well.

I have spent $15,000 on the two systems. but at least I should have no trouble hopefully.


Central Missouri location.


Gene

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glennster

04-23-2007 13:26:17




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 Re: OT house water pressure in reply to Marc in Va, 04-23-2007 12:33:11  
when you get your pressure up, you may want to add a second tank to give you a little more volume, the pump wont cycle as much. if i remember on the switches, turning the screw in raises the cut in and cut out pressures.



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Mike (WA)

04-23-2007 13:13:41




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 Re: OT house water pressure in reply to Marc in Va, 04-23-2007 12:33:11  
You should be able to adjust the pressure switch to the desired setting- if its like most, will have a gray cover that you can remove, and I think the adjustment is with a screwdriver. I haven't had to buy one in years so I suppose they may have "chintzied" them up to where they are preset with no adjustment possible, whereupon you get a new one with the setting you want and replace it.



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