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Rome

04-17-2007 18:50:40




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HELP ! Have a 1997 Dodge 1500 with 5.9 liter engine and automatic transmission. The tranny shifts fine, but every so often it dissengages the overdrive. The O.D. off switch lights up and it just randomly shifts into drive. Also seems to smell like warm wires or switches. Shut it off and let it cool a bit and it's okay, for a while. Any ideas or suggestions will be appreciated.




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Vern-MI

04-19-2007 12:04:52




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 Re: O.T. in reply to Rome, 04-17-2007 18:50:40  
The way those systems usually work is that there are On-Off valves, a Variable Force Solenoid valve and a Pulse Width Modulated valve in a solenoid pack in the valve body of the transmission. The On-Off valves schedule the shifts by a sequence of one valve on while the other(s) are off for one gear, The opposite valve on while the first is off for another gear, both valves off for another gear, and finally both valves on for another gear.

There are engine temperature sensors, throttle angle sensors, engine speed sensors, transmission speed sensors, and in your case an axle speed sensor. When the proper engine speed, engine temperature, throttle angle, transmission output speeds are achieved for a period of time the Powertrain Control Module sets the status of the shift control solenoid valves to select a particular gear range. In your case you want over drive. So it appears that yours is capable of selecting the gear by a setting the on-off state of the shift control valves. However your wants to drop out every so often. That tells me it can be an intermittent sensor, a bad wire, or an intermittent connector from corrosion. It also could be a bad Powertrain control module or a chaffed wire somewhere in the loom.

I gueessed the speed sensor because that is where most problems occur.

My guess.

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Vern-MI

04-18-2007 04:39:10




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 Re: O.T. in reply to Rome, 04-17-2007 18:50:40  
I'll be the first to say those words men like to say the least, "I don't know" but I would guess:

STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # SC104T {TRU-TECH}
42RE, 46RE Transmission; Output Sensor for Transmission Control Module
47RE; Output Sensor for Transmission Control Module $13.58

OR:

STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # SC104 {SPEED SENSOR}
47RE; Output Sensor for Transmission Control Module
42RE, 46RE Transmission; Output Sensor for Transmission Control Module $15.35

OR:

STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # SC105T {TRU-TECH}
Mounted on Rear Axle; Vehicle Speed Sensor $20.79


OR:

STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # SC105 {SPEED SENSOR}
Mounted on Rear Axle; Vehicle Speed Sensor $22.79

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Rome

04-19-2007 05:30:46




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 Re: O.T. in reply to Vern-MI, 04-18-2007 04:39:10  
Thanks for the input, this is where we will start.



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Vern-MI

04-19-2007 11:17:38




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 Re: O.T. in reply to Rome, 04-19-2007 05:30:46  
Remember that was a guess. Looks like there is one on the transmission extension housing and one on the rear axle. I wouldn't dare to guess which one would be most likely to be the culprit. Those are www.Rockauto.com prices.



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