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Cutting a brick wall.....

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Bill46

04-09-2007 10:10:06




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I just bought a place with brick facia on the house and the garage.
On the gargage there is a short wall that sticks out about 6 feet and about 4 feet tall making it look much wider. I have no idea what the wall was for other than looks. But over the years the footer holding the wall has started to sink and pulling a section of the gargage with it. I can see where someone has repaired the wall at one time...but it is getting cracks in it again. I go to the other side and there is no wall sticking out like this one.
Don't know what the thing is for other than to be in the way and maybe hide things behind.
I started to go rent a saw to cut the wall off and leave just a foot of it sticking out, but a friend says I should not do that, I may weaken the gargage wall.
As far as I can see it's in the way and it needs to go.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance for your help.

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Dug

04-13-2007 22:40:23




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 Re: Cutting a brick wall..... in reply to Bill46, 04-09-2007 10:10:06  
Sounds like a decorative wing wall of no structural importance. Rent the saw and buzz it off.



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SuperA-Tx

04-10-2007 04:34:18




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 Re: Cutting a brick wall..... in reply to Bill46, 04-09-2007 10:10:06  
Those extension walls are called "wing walls" and actually serve no purpose. They were quite popular around here in the 60's and early 70's for ranch style houses. Usually they had a lamp on the end of the wing wall. I have seen a few that were arched like a garden entrance but those were from the 50's I think.



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Bill46

04-09-2007 12:01:28




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 Re: Cutting a brick wall..... in reply to Bill46, 04-09-2007 10:10:06  
Stan I have Allan's e-mail address...maybe he can load them for me so you can see what I have. Never mind the dark area...it's been real wet and I have mold to get off that wall.



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Stan in Oly, WA

04-09-2007 11:12:28




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 Re: Cutting a brick wall..... in reply to Bill46, 04-09-2007 10:10:06  
Hi Bill,

If this piece of wall is tied into the veneer of the garage and it is sinking and pulling the garage wall with it, it's hard to see how it's removal could do anything other than improve the situation. I'd guess that your friend's explanation of the harm the wall's removal would cause would really involve some Twilight Zone concepts---unless he had the good grace to admit that he was mistaken after he thought about it for a minute. But, like Billy NY said, it's hard to visualize from a written description.

All the best, Stan

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Billy NY

04-09-2007 10:44:33




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 Re: Cutting a brick wall..... in reply to Bill46, 04-09-2007 10:10:06  
Hard to visualize and why the extension of the veneer is an odd detail, is there block behind it with a cavity and brick veneer face at this section ? It's not a retaining wall holding back fill, brick face made to match garage veneer, that is certainly is different.

Well, it sounds as if the footing displaced and if the veneer is attached to the buildin veneer, it's eventually going to fracture and seperate. A lot of times a 90 deg with a return back for x amount of feet in a wall will provide strength to say a shear wall, but this is a veneer, no ? It's a garage with 4 walls correct ? Don't see how cutting off that veneer before it settles further is going to create a problem, should help correct a problem unless I'm missing something.

Veneer brick face is for aethstetic reasons, should not be structural, and although the footing may be part of the buildings footing whatever wall type the brick is covering ought to be fine on its own footing, after a sawcut, demo saw with masonry abrasion blade will work, a diamond blade with water won't be so dusty to cut. Once cut you will probably reveal a cavity between the brick and the wall it should be tied back to, might have to seal that up.

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Bill46

04-09-2007 11:02:36




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 Re: Cutting a brick wall..... in reply to Billy NY, 04-09-2007 10:44:33  
Thanks for the reply Billy.
The wall just sticks out from the side of the building...with no purpose I can see.
Yes, the wall to the building is brick veneer just as you said. The wall just ties into it with 2 layers of brick with a foundation.
As the foundation for the wall sinks its pulling the veneer away. I thought I would cut it off before it does more damage. And by the way, cut the foundation off at the same time...it would serve no purpose being there except to be in the way.
It almost looks like it was to set something behind it. To hide it from the road so to speak. Beats me what it was for. I just have to walk around the darn thing everytime I go to the back of the gargage.
Thanks for your input.

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TimV

04-09-2007 11:33:36




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 Re: Cutting a brick wall..... in reply to Bill46, 04-09-2007 11:02:36  
At the risk of stating the obvious, a lot of times a small extension like this is built to hide garbage cans or a propane or fuel oil tank. Was there a heating system in the garage at one point?



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Bill46

04-09-2007 11:43:48




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 Re: Cutting a brick wall..... in reply to TimV, 04-09-2007 11:33:36  
No...not to the best of my knowledge. Just a plain old house and gargage.
It's the only one around like it. I will get some photos and see of someone can help me up load them.



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