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OT: 99 Ford Contour

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Dennis Minn

04-07-2007 13:59:27




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All, I need a bit of mechanical help on this 1999 Ford Contour, 2.0litre, auto. I was given this vehicle through my wife"s aunt"s estate, so I don"t have any history on it. I went and checked it over and saw the tranny fluid was kind of reddish/brown in color, so I wanted to change it. Now for the fun part....How do I change it? There"s not a "pan", nor a drain, and from what the parts man said, there"s not even a filter in the tranny. If I want to put a filter in it, I have to cut into the cooling lines and add an in-line?! Also,I am missing the owner"s manual, what kind of fluid does this animal take for transmission? Thanks for any help, Dennis.

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Ichabod

04-11-2007 06:12:26




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Dennis Minn, 04-07-2007 13:59:27  
The service manager at a local tranny shop told me that some of his work consists of transmissions that had just been flushed. I wouldn't try it. I bought a gadget from Harbor Freight that you connect your air hose to it, and run a suction tube down the dipstick tube and suck the fluid out of the pan. The quality of the tool is above average for Harbor Freight stuff. You get about four quarts each time. My Mom's transmission was shifting rough but after one change it was like new. Did it once more on the next oil change just for good measure. I'm very careful to keep dirt out of the dipstick tube.

Ichabod

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dave guest

04-08-2007 19:07:17




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 Trans fluid change time in reply to Dennis Minn, 04-07-2007 13:59:27  
This was in an old popular mechanix magazine. I wouldn't try unless I felt lucky. They suggest disconnecting line from trans to radiator and running engine until fluid is all out and then refill. I think you would have to shut down immediately or destroy trans pump. Then remove pan, change filter, replace pan and fluid. What do you think. Ever tried this?



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dave guest

04-08-2007 19:07:05




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 Trans fluid change time in reply to Dennis Minn, 04-07-2007 13:59:27  
This was in an old popular mechanix magazine. I wouldn't try unless I felt lucky. They suggest disconnecting line from trans to radiator and running engine until fluid is all out and then refill. I think you would have to shut down immediately or destroy trans pump. Then remove pan, change filter, replace pan and fluid. What do you think. Ever tried this?



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Charles (in GA)

04-07-2007 19:02:37




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Dennis Minn, 04-07-2007 13:59:27  
Might be worth taking it to a dealer or large reputable tranny shop. Most have a flushing machine that they can connect the fluid lines to and flush it out.

On the flip side is that if it is working good, it might be better to not mess with it. More than once I"ve heard of auto trannys failing after having the fluid change for the first time after about a million miles of driving. Could be urban legend but one guy at work did have it happen to him on an old ladys car he bought.

Charles

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tech4

04-08-2007 06:32:07




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Charles (in GA), 04-07-2007 19:02:37  
I agree with Charles about changing fluid if has not been changed in a lot of miles. But from another site here is the location of the drain plug.
"The transmission fluid drain plug is found under the driver side of the engine and is a female, square bolt you will need to remove."



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Vern-MI

04-07-2007 15:47:50




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Dennis Minn, 04-07-2007 13:59:27  
That vehicle with either the 2.0 liter or the 2.5 liter engine would have used a CD4E transmission made in Batavia Ohio, just east of Cincinnati, OH. That transmission was used from 1994 until 2002 and it used Ford spec. Mercon XT-2-QDX transmission oil, (NOT MERCON V). The difference between the Mercon and the Mercon V is primarily in the PPM levels of Calcium, Boron and Zinc. The PPM of Phosphorous and Sulphur are the same in each. I don�t recall the converter having a drain plug so you will either have to resort to multiple changes of the four quarts in the pan or you will have to use a transmission flush method. Good luck with your oil change.

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Midwest redneck

04-10-2007 17:03:27




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Vern-MI, 04-07-2007 15:47:50  
Do you work at the Ford Livonia transmission plant or something. 10 years ago I used to go to the Sharonville plant every week, (what a dump, and managed by idiots). Is the Batavia plant still running or is it shutdown. When I went to Sharonville there were 5 Ford Transmission plants 1. Sharonville E4OD 2. Batavia CD4E 3. Bordaux A4LDE 4. Van dyke AX4S 5. Livonia AX4S/N I think my memory is correct here. I used to work for a large autosupplier in Oakland county.

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Vern-MI

04-07-2007 16:46:57




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Vern-MI, 04-07-2007 15:47:50  
In regards to your transmission suction screen or filter, it is buried deep inside the transmission and cannot be serviced without a teardown. The side cover will allow access to the valve body and solenoid pack but that's about it so no sense in opening that up. I can't remember if there was a drain plug near the bottom of that transmission.



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Dennis Minn

04-07-2007 18:20:09




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Vern-MI, 04-07-2007 16:46:57  
Vern-MI, thanks for the help. Let me pester you for a bit more. How do I tell which cooler line is which? Can I get a large container of the appropriate fluid, and pull the cooler lines, and then start the engine and pull in fresh fluid, while filling an empty jug with the old? Should I connect the two lines and tee in as drain valve to purge out some old while pouring in some new? Does it come out fast? Should I skip the in-line filter? I know I ask a lot, but this is a first for me, no owner's manual, no service manual, and I called Ford and their tranny specialist wasn't available. I really am surprised that the tranny wasn't easier to service. I feel for the mechanics that have to work on these things, they're worth every dime, with their experience and schooling probably would make my questions seem elementary. Thanks in advance, Dennis.

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Vern-MI

04-08-2007 05:29:35




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Dennis Minn, 04-07-2007 18:20:09  
If I remember right the CD4E does have a drain plug. It is a 3/8" square internal recess pipe plug located toward the rear of the transaxle case near where the differential is located. Look closely for it before trying any other drain method. Some dealers or oil change places may even take the time to show you where it is loacated if you can't locate it.



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Vern-MI

04-08-2007 04:47:54




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Dennis Minn, 04-07-2007 18:20:09  
It has been 6 years since I have touched one of those. The cooler out would be the same one that connects to the bottom fitting on the heat exchanger in the radiator. I never tried to take one of those off and run the engine as I never liked to run the pump out of oil. It probably would create a very big mess in a hurry. If you can't use a suction pump down the dipstick tube or find a drain plug then I believe I would leave it to the dealer.

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Dennis Minn

04-08-2007 07:32:46




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Vern-MI, 04-08-2007 04:47:54  
Vern, I thank you for your advise and input. I'll post back when I've got some work done on it. I am heading to the folks' place for some Easter lunch. Probably sometime during the week I'll get around to it. For now, it's a bit cold and messy for me on a Sunday. Thanks, Dennis.



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Don L C

04-08-2007 19:29:39




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Dennis Minn, 04-08-2007 07:32:46  
I havent worked on mine for about 6 years lost my left leg and cant get up and down any more..... i'am also 71 years old....that dont help...

Get your self a case of tranny oil...remove the easiest conection to your tranny cooler...remove coil wire and ground it...put large drain pan under open conection...crank engin with starter... pump out about 5 or 6 qt...stop and add 5 or 6 qt. fresh oil...keep doing this until oil looks new or one time more than tranny holds when full...do not over fill on last pump....put cooler line back on ,top off the oil replace the coil wire...start the engin ,check cooler conection for leak..... that should be as good a job as you can get....check oil after first driving..... ..Don

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Billpa

04-08-2007 02:42:01




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Dennis Minn, 04-07-2007 18:20:09  

Dennis
It sounds like you already now the answer and are fishing.!!!



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Dennis Minn

04-08-2007 07:29:42




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 Re: OT: 99 Ford Contour in reply to Billpa , 04-08-2007 02:42:01  
Bill, I have been fishing before, but I had least known which bait to use! Actually, there's only been a time or two when I couldn't figure things out for myself, but this had me a little rattled. Like I said, it's a car from my wife's aunt's eestate, who wished for it to go to one of my stepdaughters to assist in their travels in college. I hope Krista or Kelly would take great care in such a gift, but I want them to have the car in as fine condition as I can get it, before they use it. I figure the ounce of prevention versus the pound of cure idea goes a long ways with this. Respectfully, Dennis.

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