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Grove r

05-10-2001 07:10:29




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Have always mused about the "Plane Table" type of survey instrument, by Kuefle and Esser, [sp]. Have seen these instruments used back in the sixtys, are they a rather antiquated tool? do they have a specific use, as compared with the transit? or are they just simply, "different"? Just thought I would chuck this in, in relation to the post below. Takk for the info, R.E.L.




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DHunter

05-12-2001 03:50:47




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 Re: Another Survey Instrument Question. in reply to Grove r, 05-10-2001 07:10:29  
Rhudson is correct with the exception that it can be used for large or small plots depending on the scale you set up. I remember using one in engineering school back in the 50's but there's been a lot of water under the bridge since then. The instrument on the board (table) is called an alidade. You set the board up over a known point and measure distance, angle and elevation to an array of other points (as many as you like to define the problem). You plot the points on the table as you colect the data. When you move to another location you reference it with backsights to the original. When all the data is collected and massaged you can plot a topographic map of the surveyed area. I'm sure there are much better ways of doing it now but that was the exercise back when.
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Dewayne Hunter

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rhudson

05-11-2001 20:22:50




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 Re: Another Survey Instrument Question. in reply to Grove r, 05-10-2001 07:10:29  
Grover, I may be way outside left base on this but. i think the plane tables were used to lay out small maps and plats of property. a sheet of vellum was placed on the table and the sight had a straight edge held against the paper. am i close?



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Paul

05-11-2001 14:49:28




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 Re: Another Survey Instrument Question. in reply to Grove r, 05-10-2001 07:10:29  
I'm not familiar with what you describe as a "plane table" K&E instrument. I used K&E 20 second transits for 30 years doing route survey work. In the last couple of years before I retired we were switching over to the Electronic Distance Measuring guns (various brands) with 5 and 2 1/2 second accuracy. The old K&E transits are tough workhorses. They are dependable and accuracy adjustments can be made in the field. Like all combination transit/levels, the level accuracy is good for building site work, but not so hot for cross country level circuit accuracy. If you want level accuracy, a dedicated surveyors level will do a much better job.

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Grove r

05-11-2001 21:09:05




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 Re: Re: Another Survey Instrument Question. in reply to Paul, 05-11-2001 14:49:28  
Hi, Paul, first, am not a surveyor, so what transcribes is strictly in laymans terms, secound, thanks for the response, very much appreciated. To add a little more to my first post; the instrument mentioned was used in the oil exploration industry, [siesmograph], for ploting elevation and direction. the system incorporated a tripod, to which was atached a "board", center mounted, of about 18in. square. attached to this is a piece of light cardboard, whith four special corner screws. The instrument is made up of the usual veiwing apperatus mounted on a flat base, app. four by ten inches by 1/4 inch thick beveled on the sides with graduations as a ruler would have. the "veiwer" was able to pivot up and down for elevation[?], and also was equiped with triangulation feature, and leveling atachment. the unit rested on the "board" freely, able to be moved about. From what I remember; after chaining and "flagging" the "line", sometimes many miles long, surveying would take place in the usual maner, writing the elevations etc. down in a book, but where the difference came in, was the fact that an actual map was drawn to scale on the "cardboard", as surveying was carried out. Have often thought about this as I have never seen this type of survey tool used before or since, hence my queery on the previous post. Perhaps this is not the proper place for this question, but due to the vast store of knowledge here, knew that someone would surely be able to shed some lite on the subject. thanking you again for you response, R.E.L.

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