TRACTOR PARTS Allis Chalmers Case & David Brown Farmall & International Ferguson Ford & New Holland John Deere Massey Ferguson Massey Harris Minneapolis Moline Oliver & Cockshutt Kubota / Yanmar

TRACTOR MANUALS

Allis Chalmers	Case	Farmall IH	Ford 8N,9N,2N	Ford
Ferguson	John Deere	Massey Ferguson	Minn. Moline	Oliver

Attention Forum Users: On the 28th of December 2023 at 9:00am Central Time, we will be taking the forums down for maintenance while we prepare the new forums for your use. Please click here for more information.

Tool Talk Discussion Forum

drill sharpening gauge

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register

Author

Tim B from MA

04-04-2007 12:36:39

Report to Moderator

Anyone have a suggestion where to get a drill sharpening gauge?

I look (though not recently) in the usual places (HF, Northern tools, Grizzley, sears, autoparts stores) and have not found one yet.

Thanks.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

deanop

04-05-2007 04:36:25

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to Tim B from MA, 04-04-2007 12:36:39

I was also gonna say you could make your own very easily....I do have one that is paper, that was a hardware giveaway, that I use..You could easily make a metal one if you don't find one...Then you'd have a real "Made in USA" with pride by "Me" ...good luck deanop

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

deanop

04-05-2007 04:29:15

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to Tim B from MA, 04-04-2007 12:36:39

I too have been looking for a drill guage...I wonder if you called a local machinest, if he/she couldn't point you in the right direction (no pun intended)...I'll do a little googling and see if I can come up with something..good luck deanop

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Tim B from MA

04-05-2007 09:43:48

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to deanop, 04-05-2007 04:29:15

Based on Mike's rely below, found them on Starrett's web site and a link to a distributer near me, but I'd be looking at about $48, not sure I want it that badly.

I have a decent protractor - I may just use it to make my own.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

vitzarus

04-04-2007 21:06:17

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to Tim B from MA, 04-04-2007 12:36:39

The General was about the least expensive I've seen. That tip about two hex nuts is pretty cool,never heard that before. It makes sense for 60 is close to 59 1/2. The angle is a start and quenching of course. The lip grind and other factors make it cut once it is in the work. The cutting edge must protrude slightly ahead of the body of the point but not so much it is evident.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Tim B from MA

04-04-2007 19:12:19

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to Tim B from MA, 04-04-2007 12:36:39

I think what I am looking for is a drill point gauge. Looks like a protractor set on a steal ruler. You use it to check the angles on you drill when sharpening.

My only problem with drill doctors is, the are generally limited how big a drill you can sharpen - largest ones go to what 3/4 inch? If I need to get good at sharpening the big ones on a grinder, I might as well to the little ones that way.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

dan hill

04-04-2007 16:57:17

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to Tim B from MA, 04-04-2007 12:36:39

2 hex nuts glued side by side will work.I have a sears gauge I bought years ago.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

MikeCatthemuseum

04-04-2007 16:43:14

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to Tim B from MA, 04-04-2007 12:36:39

Drill Dr is god for touching up dull bits but will not regrind a totally ruined or broken point. A Starrett drill gauge is about $40, probably get an import cheaper. I use a machine shop protractor set to 59 degrees myself. I have also made a couple of quick gauges out of aluminum sheet using the same protractor. You just scribe the point angle, scribe in some divisions (I like to go over the divisions with a black sharpie and then shine it back up with fine emory cloth to make the lines pop out), and you are set. It's not rocket science, the idea is just to get the lips at the same angle and both the same length. Something very simple will do that.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Gene Davis(Ga)

04-04-2007 19:05:52

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to MikeCatthemuseum, 04-04-2007 16:43:14

Beg to differ with you sir. I regrind points on broken bits all the time with my drill doctor. I have sharpened bits by hand for 40+ years, but can't compete with the accuracy and finish of the drill doctor!

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

MikeCatthemuseum

04-05-2007 21:30:06

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to Gene Davis(Ga), 04-04-2007 19:05:52

The Dr will give an excellent finish to a properly shaped point. I have not had good luck regrinding totally shot points with it. The 300 also will not split points or thin webs, the bench grinder can once you learn how, then you go to the Dr for a finish grind.

I will be teaching a program to the local EAA chapter on proper drilling techniques and grinding on 4/20 in Birmingham if any are interested. micallahan at att dot net is my email.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

TImV

04-04-2007 16:50:57

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to MikeCatthemuseum, 04-04-2007 16:43:14

Mike--no reason a Drill Doctor won't regrind a broken point--I broke my only good #21 drill (10-32 tap size) a half inch up from the tip a couple of days ago and put a completely new point on it with my old 300 Drill Doctor. Was back to making chips in less than two minutes. You do have to reset the drill depth in the chuck after the first couple of passes, but that's a quick operation as well.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

MikeCatthemuseum

04-04-2007 19:04:57

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to TImV, 04-04-2007 16:50:57

My 300 will not repoint worth a crap. It leaves the chisel point all wrong, kind of spiralling. You also are eating up the diamond grindwheel. Lots faster and easier to rough repoint by hand on a big bench grinder with a gauge and then finish on the Dr.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

TimV

04-05-2007 13:15:42

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to MikeCatthemuseum, 04-04-2007 19:04:57

Hadn't noticed that problem with my DD when repointing, but I agree on larger bits it's easier to rough out a point on the grinder and use the DD to bring it to final form. Still, on something as small as a #21, (or even up to 1/4" or so) I'll just do the whole thing on the DD. Considering that I seldom if ever snap off a large bit, or if I do it was a cheap junker that wasn't worth repointing, this method works fine for me.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

george md

04-04-2007 21:53:38

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to MikeCatthemuseum, 04-04-2007 19:04:57

Mike,

A cheap solution to grinding drills up to about an inch is the U S General drill grinding attachment, usually between 10 and 20 bucks and can be made to do drills down to about 1/8 or up to an inch.

third party image

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Dusty MI

04-05-2007 06:16:20

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to george md, 04-04-2007 21:53:38

I have seen this bite holder for sharping bits but I was taught to NEVER to use the side of a grinding wheel.

Dusty

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

george md

04-05-2007 10:40:55

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to Dusty MI, 04-05-2007 06:16:20

Dusty,

I have a wheel made to use with it that

I put on when I need it . It's cup shaped.

george

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

oldrustycars

04-04-2007 15:05:27

Report to Moderator

Re: drill sharpening gauge in reply to Tim B from MA, 04-04-2007 12:36:39

if you do a lot of drills, consider the drill doctor. sharpens perfect every time. i love mine.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Gerald J.

04-04-2007 13:09:12

Report to Moderator

re: Drill Sharpening gauge in reply to Tim B from MA, 04-04-2007 12:36:39

General #16 found in good hardware stores or at McMaster-Carr... www.mcmaster.com #2106A11

Gerald J.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

BarryfromIA

04-04-2007 19:45:37

Report to Moderator

Re: re: Drill Sharpening gauge in reply to Gerald J., 04-04-2007 13:09:12

If the drill is still cutting oversize after a proper sharpening you will have to look at the drill chips and look at the cutting edge to see which side is cutting more. Then take some off the side cutting the most. This happens mostly on lathes but can happen on drill press also.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

[Options] [Printer Friendly] [Posting Help] [Return to Forum] [Log in to Reply]

TRACTOR PARTS	TRACTOR MANUALS

We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home | Forums

Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.
All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy