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fixerupper

04-04-2007 05:53:23




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The spindle broke again on a drill press I can't get parts for and I've welded it twice already so I'm finally going to give up and start shopping. I'm looking for something in the 3/4"chuck and 1HP range in a floor model. I use up to 1 1/4 inch bits and 4 1/2" holesaw. It does not need to have a lot of speeds. What's your favorite brand/model? Northern Tools has one that's kind of in my range for $370 but the shipping is $120 shipped to me which is 1/3 of the origional purchase price. What do you think? Jim

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Larry-Tx

04-05-2007 06:41:52




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to fixerupper, 04-04-2007 05:53:23  
Have you looked at Sears yet?



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MikeCatthemuseum

04-05-2007 21:56:17




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to Larry-Tx, 04-05-2007 06:41:52  
There was a day past when Sears had a good quality drill press. Now it's the EXACT same press as HF painted a different color and with Craftsman stickers on it... at 3 times the price.



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vitzarus

04-04-2007 21:28:04




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to fixerupper, 04-04-2007 05:53:23  
Drill presses, drool,,,,They are so good and the basis of many a good shop. Unfortunately many of the ones i would recommend are no longer. If you could however find a very Large Walker-Turner you will keep it. Delta/Rockwell very good also. Some models were almost a vertcal mill. There was Powermatic which had a very fine drillpress.Varispeed,nice then Clausing. There is a lot of good old American Iron out there still.While I recommend these things you don't want one with a bent spindle or shot bearings right off.The quill bearings were very high quality then and not so cheap now. Good luck.

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fixerupper

04-04-2007 14:26:30




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to fixerupper, 04-04-2007 05:53:23  
Regretfully, I live pretty far from a population center, but I do have a good friend who lives in a city that is pretty heavily industrialized, and he seems to find the good stuff for cheap. I'll have to give him a buzz. A lot of the stuff he finds is three phase but you never know! I welded the spindle again this PM and it wobbles some but will get me by for now. Jim



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Bernoulli/OR

04-04-2007 14:08:17




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to fixerupper, 04-04-2007 05:53:23  
I would wait until I could inspect a prospective purchase. I would also get a dial indicator with a magnetic base so that you can check runout (even on a new one!).



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Tim B from MA

04-04-2007 12:35:00




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to fixerupper, 04-04-2007 05:53:23  
By the way, normal, home/small shop-type drill presses (including older ones advocated below) are a dime-a-dozen on craigslist tools classifieds. They are listed by region / city.

If you live anywhere near a population center, you should be able to find one in short order close enough to pick up and apply the shipping fee to a bigger better machine.

I buy stuff from Harbor Frieght, but I would NOT buy something like a drill press fron Harbor Frieght or Nothern Tools.

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Davis In SC

04-04-2007 09:14:08




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to fixerupper, 04-04-2007 05:53:23  
As suggested below, a milling machine is very useful. As far as drill presses go, an older used one is much better built than the new imported ones. The older Delta or Walker-Turner drills are good, and fairly easy to find..



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Tim B from MA

04-04-2007 09:05:31




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to fixerupper, 04-04-2007 05:53:23  
The thing about a drill press is not how high the RPMs go, but how low.

If you are drilling with 1 1/4 inch bits, you want a machine that turns pretty slowly - others will know better but I am guessing about 150 rpm, maybe less. Most home-type drill presses bottom out at about 350 rpm.

I bought a decent Reliant several years ago, but if I ever build a barn for more room, I will get a used milling machine. Commonly seen in my area in the $600 to $1200 range on craigslist.com

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MikeCatthemuseum

04-04-2007 16:59:12




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to Tim B from MA, 04-04-2007 09:05:31  
It's not just how slow, either... it's BOTH. To drill big holes you want something that runs slow and has a lot of power. You can actually get away with about 200rpm for a 1 1/4" hole in steel, but the other end of the scale is just as important.

A good rule of thumb is 500rpm for .500" diam in steel. So 250rpm for 1" and 1000rpm for 1/4", 2000rpm for 1/8" and 4000rpm for 1/16". That will give about 70ft/min, which is about right for most uses. As you can see, little stuff needs to haul butt. Running too slow is going to cause you to break little drills as they will hog in and wring off.

So a press that runs 125-4500rpm can drill holes from 2" to under 1/16" in steel at the proper speeds. Now how about aluminum? Quadruple those speeds to give about 280ft/min. Yup, 16,000rpm is perfect for 1/16" in aluminum! You need to be turning about 1000rpm at poke a 1" hole in aluminum, a 1hp drill press just isn't going to pull the cut.

That's why I have a 6000lb 3hp radial arm drill that will go down to 49rpm and tops out at 1100.. PLUS a bench type cheapo chinese import that runs from 350-4250rpm. I'd love to have a 20,000rpm sensitive precision press for tiny stuff, but haven't found one cheap just yet.

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Jerrycpp(WA)

04-04-2007 08:07:05




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to fixerupper, 04-04-2007 05:53:23  
Check out Grizzly Industrial Tools - I have many of thier tools and all have been good quality and good price.



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fixerupper

04-04-2007 06:39:22




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to fixerupper, 04-04-2007 05:53:23  
I should add that the $120 shipping is above the $370 purchase price. Sorry. Jim



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RustyFarmall

04-04-2007 05:57:36




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 Re: drill press purchase? in reply to fixerupper, 04-04-2007 05:53:23  
It will no doubt cost more than $370, but if you could find a used milling machine, you would have the best drill press ever built.



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