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Be a Nice Guy?

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Glenn FitzGeral

04-02-2007 09:49:42




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I plan on picking up the '88 Cheyy 3500 tomorrow. Owner currently has a piggy back camper he used with the truck which is also for sale (e-Bay here we come). Knowing his level of mechanical skill I expect the front mounting bracket for the camper will still be mounted to the truck when I get it. Do I just say nothing and wait for someone to call me saying they need it...and at that point say they are free to come and get it (removing it themself), or, tell whoever calls me, "for $50 I'll remove and deliver it to a place in town convenient for me"? If I could, I'd like to make the extra cash, but don't want to take advantage of somemone. It would be fairly easily removed as it is mounted with about 4 bolts. I could remove it and bring it into work (town) with me on a given day.

What would you do? (Maybe I'll be surprised to see the bracket already removed tomorrow when I pick up the truck.)

Glenn

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Glenn FitzGerald

04-04-2007 09:21:57




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
I have appreciated each of your replies. I too, am one to go back to the clerk and tell her I received too much change, return a pen, etc. I guess this one didn't seem as clear cut. Removing the bracket may not be so simple if bolts are rusted, etc. I called the owner prior to picking up the truck. He said he was not interested in the bracket and it goes with the truck. It doesn't matter to me either way. When I get a chance to work on the truck it's coming off though.

Thank you for your strong but kind responses.

Glenn F.

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dave guest

04-03-2007 18:46:11




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
To him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not, to him it is sin.(Bible) Anybody can't figure that out would surely be innocent.



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TomTX

04-03-2007 16:13:08




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
I kinda split the opinions below. I would point it out to the seller that he had left it on there. Tell him he can keep it if he wants to take it off. The part in your mind wasn't in the purchase price, and neither is the labor to take it off. It is the seller's option/decision. Tom



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Grabatire

04-03-2007 07:38:16




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
The fact that you asked the question, indicates your concience has already told you what you should do.



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Dick2

04-03-2007 04:07:30




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
Neighbor Fred traded in his 1956 Plymouth on a 1958. Dad bought the '56 the next day from the dealer and I took the '56 back the next day for the tune-up that was part of the deal.

I was standing in the shop talking to the dealer when neighbor Fred walked in, worried that he'd forgotten to take the trailer hitch off of his '56. I saw the dealer get an anxious look on his face, so I walked over to the '56, opened the trunk, took out a Crescent and handed it to Fred and told him to take it off.

Fred was relieved, as was the dealer. That act bought me a lot of favor with that dealer later; I was repaid many times for that. Unfortunately, I never got anywhere with Fred's daughter, but that's a whole 'nother story.

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john d

04-03-2007 19:33:18




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Dick2, 04-03-2007 04:07:30  
A few years ago I took a Chevrolet back to the dealership for some warranty service work. The next day, I opened the hood to put in some washer fluid, and found a ratchet and socket tucked into the fender brace. Since I was going to be within a few miles of the dealership later that day, I stopped and carried the tool inside.

The service manager was astonished that I'd taken the time to bring the tool back, and called the mechanic up front to receive it. Both thanked me profusely. Every time I went back to that dealership for service, I got the best possible treatment. Sometimes doing the right thing pays dividends.

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vitzarus

04-03-2007 06:05:33




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Dick2, 04-03-2007 04:07:30  
Good story. No drama. Everyone happy and it was repaid. Man you don"t go into that expecting to be repaid. That"s a Faith thing or meeting halfway others.You can"t put that on charts and graphs.Unknown it is. Quality it is. Unknown Quality. Yet as one said there is a ripple effect.Nothing like an old codger or even a young wanna-be break stream and do something unexpected in the charity or concern dept. These things stick in the mind.We are removed by miles as we see it yet a connection survived and not wrought by lizards.

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Bud in NC

04-02-2007 17:31:46




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
"Having character means you do what�s right even when nobody�s looking."
Don't know who said it but it works in my life.



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SDE

04-02-2007 15:22:50




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
General Norman Schwartzchof(Mis-spelled)? was credited with saying," It is not difficult to know the right thing to do, The hard part is doing the right thing"

As close as I remember it anyway.

Do what you are the most comfortable with, not what the next guy might do.

SDE



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Stan in Oly, WA

04-02-2007 12:29:03




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
Hi Glenn,

If you take advantage of someone just because it's not actually illegal and because you can, the benefit is soon gone. What's never gone is the fact that you did it---you never get a chance to go back and be a good person that time.

Life's not so simple as to be able to say that you'll never regret doing the right thing; sometimes you end up feeling like a fool anyway. But between the choice of feeling like a fool or knowing I was a chiseler, I find the former easier to laugh off.

Besides, there really is a kind of ripple effect from our actions. A person would have to already be pretty corrupt to respond to your decent action by thinking, "What a sucker. I'd never do an honest thing like that."

All the best, Stan

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Glenn F.

04-02-2007 13:29:10




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 04-02-2007 12:29:03  
Alright, alright, you can stop the flogging now! Thank you for giving me the whipping I deserved.

Glenn F.



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Stan in Oly, WA

04-02-2007 16:12:15




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn F., 04-02-2007 13:29:10  
Hi again Glenn,

I didn't think you deserved a whipping, and I didn't mean to give you one. What you brought up is a serious issue and I was trying to respond with something other than the black/white, right/wrong, good/bad view you'd expect to hear about if you were ten years old. Life would be a whole lot simpler if it was always clear what was the right thing to do. Unless you decide to just give up and live your life by somebody else's rules, it seems like you hardly ever get to experience the luxury of being totally certain you're right.

I think you're a good guy, Glenn.

All the best, Stan

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Mike M

04-02-2007 11:13:50




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
Maybe you'll get there and all you get is a cab and chassis ? He will say the bed and camper go together !!!! LOL



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highlandcowman

04-02-2007 10:57:52




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
I TIP MY HAT TO BILL AND RON AS I WOULD DO THE SAME..THAT PART WAS NOT IN THE PRICE.



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Rod (NH)

04-02-2007 10:34:08




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
You have to ask such an ethics question that has an obvious answer? On a tool forum? Here's a hint: How would you want to be treated if the buyer/seller roles were reversed? Once you answer that to your satisfaction, you will know what to do.



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Bill in NorthCentral PA

04-02-2007 09:58:59




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 04-02-2007 09:49:42  
For me, I'd take the socket set with me and unbolt it and give it to the man before I left. It wouldn't be worth the hassle, and the guy might be appreciative or spread the word that I'm a straight up guy. Dunno how that sounds for your situation, but that's how I'd do that deal.

Bill



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vitzarus

04-03-2007 02:22:27




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 Re: Be a Nice Guy? in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 04-02-2007 09:58:59  
Yes stuff needs to kinda stay together. I picture a good attempt at removing the bracket for the guy met with two stubborn rusted bolts and a few trips to the toolbox. The intent is there. I'd rather be ridiculed as a nice guy than known as a sob. That decision is not always the easy road. That is why it means something.



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