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ric1

04-01-2007 06:12:12




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hi what wood boards could you get from a sawmill to build a board fence with i would guess oak most likely and can you set the post on 8 ft centers




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GeneMO

04-02-2007 09:52:51




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to ric1, 04-01-2007 06:12:12  
We have used untreated white oak with good success. If you have your own logs and access to a sawmill. Best would be cyprus, but its hard to find and expensive. We have a local trucker who picks up treated oak lumber from the Missouri Ozarks, it works good also. By the time you cut your logs and pay the sawmill it might just be a cheap to buy the treated oak, if available.

Many of the old timers around here also used walnut. I still have several small gates on our place that are walnut and are 45+ years old.


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KEH

04-01-2007 16:17:24




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to ric1, 04-01-2007 06:12:12  

Definitly use white oak if at all possible. Like Dave said, boards will rot faster where joined. Don't let boards touch ground, they will rot quickly. Try to use boards that don't have knots or sap wood(thats the light colored layer of wood next to the bark). Boards with large knots will split along the knot. I have used red oak for corral fencing, it lasts about 20 years here in SC.
Less chance of green boards warping if you go with the 8 foot spacing. You may want to use zinc coated nails, especially if you use treated posts. If you are going to use the fence to keep livestock in, put the boards on the inside of the post.
Eastern red cedar: The red heartwood is very decay resistant, will not warp as bad as oak, but cedar is a weak wood. Wouldn't trust it to hold livestock, unless of course you had an electric fence inside it.

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ric1

04-01-2007 18:57:13




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to KEH , 04-01-2007 16:17:24  
thanks guys



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Bud in NC

04-01-2007 16:02:00




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to ric1, 04-01-2007 06:12:12  
We used whatever the saw mill had - mostly poplar - all rough cut. We used treated 4x4s for post and then used black roof *coating* thinned with paint thinner so it'd spray out of a cheap pump up sprayer. The fence is dark brown/ black and it's doing fine after 5 years. I'll probably re-spray it in another year or so just 'cause.



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Bus Driver

04-01-2007 14:16:41




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to ric1, 04-01-2007 06:12:12  
Here in the Sunny South, a board fence is HIGH maintenance, no matter the species of lumber or how it is preservative treated.



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flying belgian

04-01-2007 09:27:21




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to ric1, 04-01-2007 06:12:12  
I think Cedar. Thats what they make shingles out of and they last 30 years.



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NE IA Dave

04-01-2007 08:38:16




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to ric1, 04-01-2007 06:12:12  
I do not intend to disagree with any one, but the old timers told me years ago that white oak is great, red oak must be kept dry and never used for a sill on concrete walls due to fast rotting. I have seen red oak on a few projects, and turned out in a very negative form. However on a fence the best we have hands down in NE Ia is red elm in a afordable mode. Any fence that is under trees or shade need special attention for rotting as they do not dry out as fast. The grain in the wood, and knots are another factor. When we tear out wood fences they are always rotted at the place where the wood is joined. Paint is good, but the paint never gets into the joint where the wood is joined together.

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Philmar Farms

04-01-2007 08:19:10




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to ric1, 04-01-2007 06:12:12  
A full service lumber yard or the right sawmill should be able to get 1x6 16' white oak boards,green[not dried]. Put them up green they are not hard to work with. The white oak is more rot resitant then red oak. Also white oak doesn't rust iron fastners like red oak.



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Sandbur

04-01-2007 07:59:27




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to ric1, 04-01-2007 06:12:12  
Ric, I would get 16" boards, set posts 8"on center, I have used red oak 1x6 and mine are about 15 years old. The 16" boards will make the fence stronger and less apt to fall out of line. Stagger the joints from top to bottom. !x6 are okay for a decorative fence, but I would reccomend at least 2" x 6" or 8" for livestock.



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oleblu

04-01-2007 06:57:36




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to ric1, 04-01-2007 06:12:12  
I'd try to get 16' cypress boards if you are setting your posts every 8' apart. Cypress will weather well and last longer than oak.



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MarkB_MI

04-01-2007 06:54:31




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to ric1, 04-01-2007 06:12:12  
What is available going to vary by your locality, but you need to think about rot resistance. Cedar is a good choice. Pine will be OK if you're Out West. Red oak doesn't have good rot resistance, and driving nails through oak is no fun at all. I'd call nearby mills and ask what they have and what they recommend.

Sure, you can put posts 8' on center, but you'll save money if you go to 10'.



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Stinky Cheese

04-01-2007 06:37:05




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 Re: boards for board fence in reply to ric1, 04-01-2007 06:12:12  
Oak would be a good choice for fence boards. You can set the posts on 8 foot centers if you like. It would make it a lot more difficult to set them on 10 foot centers if you can only buy 8 foot boards, but if you can buy 10 foot boards, then you might want to think it over a little more. What kind of posts are you going to use? Hedge is good post wood. Are you going to run livestock against either side of the fence? That will make a difference on how you build it also.

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