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Fixing Rototiller

Getting Flywheel Off

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Garry Shaf

05-05-2001 18:41:45




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What's the trick to getting a flywheel off? Is it reverse thredded normally? Also, seems like there has to be a better way than sticking a screwdriver in the flywheel for reverse leverage.

Would appreciate any advice...trying to get this just bought, very used rototiller working ... have to do the garden quick.

Garry




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Erich

05-07-2001 14:31:09




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 Re: Fixing Rototiller - Getting Flywheel Off in reply to Garry Shaf, 05-05-2001 18:41:45  
For Briggs or Tecumseh engines, use a large screw driver to pry gently up between the flywheel and the engine block while wrapping gently with a brass mallet on the end of the crankshaft. If the threads come all the way to the end of the shaft, put the nut on flush to the end. If the shaft has a smoothe end, you can cover it with a socket wrench. If you peen the shaft by mistake, file it smoothe before reassembly.

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john d

05-06-2001 14:50:33




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 Re: Fixing Rototiller - Getting Flywheel Off in reply to Garry Shaf, 05-05-2001 18:41:45  
Knowing what brand of engine you're working on would be of some help....

Most small engine flywheels are held in place by a small key that's on a tapered porton of the crankshaft. You can't twist them off the crank unless the key is sheared.

Look at the front face of the flywheel near the crankshaft. You will usually find 2, sometimes 3, holes. Most small engines need a "puller plate" made of 1/2" to 3/4" steel that fits over the end of the crankshaft and has holes to line up with the ones in the flywheel. Once the holes are lined up, you thread bolts in to pull the flywheel off. On some engines, the holes aren't even threaded at the factory, and the puller plate has self-tapping screws that cut their own threads the first time they're used.

A usually-workable alternative solution is to use a hammer and a SOFT block of material to drive the crankshaft out of the flywheel. I've used a 2" diameter piece of aluminum stock about 6" long that's been drilled to let the end of a Briggs shaft go inside it. I simply talk someone into picking up the engine and holding it a few inches above the workbench by the flywheel, then I smack the end of the aluminum piece HARD and straight with a 2-lb hammer. One whack will do it if you hit it like you mean it!

Tecumseh actually sells special tools that thread onto the end of the crankshaft, leaving about 1/8" of clearance between the tool and the flywheel. Support the flywheel the same way and hit the tool on the crankshaft with the big hammer. Make sure you hit it straight, or you'll buy a new crankshaft.

If the reason you're pulling the flywheel is to get to the points on a Briggs engine, and there is no evidence of a sheared key (keyway in flywheel and crankshaft still line up) you may want to seriously consider just buying one of those little transistorized ignition "chips" that can be wired into the system and bypass the points. I've done this several times with good success. They're usually available at small engine shops in the $10-$12 range, attach with one screw to the engine, and require cutting the primary wire from the coil to the points. I've got a couple that have functioned well for over 10 years.

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Tom

05-06-2001 14:37:57




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 Re: Fixing Rototiller - Getting Flywheel Off in reply to Garry Shaf, 05-05-2001 18:41:45  
One way that usually works is to lift the engine up by the flywheel, letting the engine hang under the flywheel in other words. With the nut loose but not off, hit the end of the crankshaft with a hammer. Sometimes it will work with a soft face hammer, but usually you need to use a steel hammer, or maybe brass, watch out for the threads, use a punch that fits inside the nut and bears on the end of the crank. Two people make this much easier.

The best way to get a flywheel off though is to make a puller. A piece of steel 1/4" or thicker and about 1' to 1 1/2" wide,a nd a couple of in. long will do. Drill holes to match the spacing of the holes in the flywheel, most have them. Use threaded rod in the holes in the flywheel, or capscrews long enough to bolt the puller on, maybe a center bolt, maybe not, depends. Sometimes a spacer under the puller over the end of the crank. Save the puller. Make it large enough so you can drill more holes to fit other engines as they come along. If you have a puller like this ready you won't need it too often. (Murphy's law) so it is good to have.

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Chris

05-06-2001 10:35:19




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 Re: Fixing Rototiller - Getting Flywheel Off in reply to Garry Shaf, 05-05-2001 18:41:45  
Use an pnumatic impact gun. Also if you must jam the flywheel thread bolts into the pull bolt holes and wedge across them.



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Russ

05-05-2001 22:36:29




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 Re: Fixing Rototiller - Getting Flywheel Off in reply to Garry Shaf, 05-05-2001 18:41:45  
You should not put any pressure on the fins, ie; don`t put a screwdriver between them. Break one off and the flywheel becomes unbalanced and also reduces cooling capacity. A couple of things you could try are, first soak the end of the crank where it comes through the flywheel with a good penetrating oil like PB Blaster or Kroil. Next, with the crank nut off, place a large screwdriver under one side of the flywheel and exert moderate leverage between the underside of the wheel and the engine case, easy does it here because you can punch a hole through the engine fairly easily, your just trying to put pressure on the flywheel, not pry it off. Now I rap the magnet side of the flywheel with a steel hammer. You may want to change the location of the screwdriver a few times if the wheel doesn`t pop off. Be patient and this technique will work. Good luck and remember not too much pressure with that screwdriver. Russ

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Gene Davis

05-05-2001 19:08:19




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 Re: Fixing Rototiller - Getting Flywheel Off in reply to Garry Shaf, 05-05-2001 18:41:45  
If is a Briggs, they usually have holes in the flyuwheel for their own type of puller. A little known fact is that the more you beat and pry on a flywheel, is the damage that can be done to the crank and bearings. A lot of times you can tap on the flywheel on the edge in line with the key with a soft hammer and loosen it, also it is bad business to put a regular gear puller on the outer edge as it will warp the flywheel. Hard to give much more specfics with out knowing make of engine. Have not seen a reverse threading flywheel situation since the two man chain saws. Remington-Mall had one on their saw and when it would misfire it would sling the flywheel off, suprised a lot of loggers!!Gene

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