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Mark/Ks

03-22-2007 18:35:42




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Thought I would let others know what I have found out the hard way. I bought two Habor Freight Trickle chargers, last fall. The ones that you put on and they are suppose to keep your battery at full charge over the winter.. Well I bought two, and Went to start the two 45's I have, and both batteries were TOTALLY Dead!!! I am not wanting to start anything, just a warning about these.. I have used other HF stuff and am satisfied, but these are junk..

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IH2444

03-23-2007 08:46:10




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 Re: HF - Trickle Chargers - in reply to Mark/Ks, 03-22-2007 18:35:42  
I always set my battery chargers on metal concrete or something with good clearance in case it flames.

People actually park Fords inside their attached garages you know :)



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Kent in KC

03-23-2007 08:00:30




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 Re: HF - Trickle Chargers - in reply to Mark/Ks, 03-22-2007 18:35:42  
Did you try spraying it with WD-40?



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dan hill

03-23-2007 04:50:20




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 Re: HF - Trickle Chargers - in reply to Mark/Ks, 03-22-2007 18:35:42  
Buy a 90 cent hydrometer and check batteries once a month.Battery chargers are responsible for many fires.A lightning strike on the power line can short diodes and the charger will burn.Most chargers have no protection if this happens.I have seen flames coming out of battery chargers...



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jeffcat

03-22-2007 20:33:43




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 Re: HF - Trickle Chargers - in reply to Mark/Ks, 03-22-2007 18:35:42  
May I jump in here for a little bit. Batterys can be a pain in the butt and Here are a couple of troubles. Correct fluid level is top on the list. This must be at tempature and at correct charge. Also remember the distilled water. A lot of batterys will have a max min charger level on them or the owner sheet and the high level is when you slowly cook them. You also need the correct voltage. At rest over night this is 12.2 volts. This shows that all six cells have a life. In a car at NORMAL it is around 14.2 or 14.3 volts.Next use a 50 amp load meter for regular car batteries. It should give you the 12.2 and when you hit the switch it should hold 11 and no lower than 10 volts. This is at room tempature. This is for a real GOOD battery! If you put a charger on the posts and with the meter reading more than 14.5 volts you will slowly cook the battery. Try another charger or you have a weak battery. One cell is going bad.

The sound system in my kitchen is a Delco Buick AM/FM CD & cassette unit that has run for over 10 years. I have two Interstate spiral wrap Optimas on it with a Schumacher 1.5 auto shut off charger. This is what HF makes a copy of for around $9.95 on special. It looks like a black plastic box with a red and black wire with round crimp fittings. You plug an extension cord into it. With GOOD batteries at FULL charge it will kick on till the voltage reads around 14.08 volts. It then kicks off and drifts down to about 13.07 or so. This will go up and down and cycle the battery so it gets execise. I hooked up a Fluke meter to it and that is what I got. This system runs nice and cool in the basement and hums very little. If the battery ain't no good a small charger will get cooked and a big charger will cook the battery. Volts versus amps. Batteries will cook altinaters and vicey versey too. Check the bat. with a good load meter first. The HF one for $10.oo on special is one H--ll of a deal and will check a lot of stuff around the place. Go to the local Interstate warehouse and pick up a return battery. About $20-25 bucks and they check and will cover replacement. The Optimas go for about $40.oo. I have bought a boat load of Optimas that came back out of warrenty but still new. Only had two bad ones out of about 40 of them. I Re-sell to friends and a couple of used car dealer friends. Many happy friends! That HF charger has been on my system for about two weeks now and it is perfect. " I gave the Schumacher to my dad for his shop system."Check out your battery first and see if you get the meter readings I gave in the text. Electricity stumps a lot of people and it is worse when it comes to car systems. This type of subject has gone round and Aruond on here many times before. Let us know. Jeffcat

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Rockyhawaii

03-22-2007 19:42:56




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 Re: HF - Trickle Chargers - in reply to Mark/Ks, 03-22-2007 18:35:42  
I use a 2 amp trickle charger that is solar powered. I have it on a forklift that isn't used much, and it seems to maintain the battery. Nice thing about it is no wires to deal with so can be left out in the field.



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Coloken

03-22-2007 19:02:16




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 Re: HF - Trickle Chargers - in reply to Mark/Ks, 03-22-2007 18:35:42  
Have one. Never tried it yet. Was warned to place in on metal or something that does not burn just in case it got hot and caught fire.



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jeffcat

03-22-2007 20:40:25




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 Re: HF - Trickle Chargers - in reply to Coloken, 03-22-2007 19:02:16  
That metal plate shows that the guy you talked to had a bad battery. The unit will keep trying to charge and will over heat till the little over heat saftey kicks out. It auto resets and trys again in about one minute. This charger should go to full voltage in about half a minute and then the little amber LED comes on. Had that happen with my dad last year. Had a bad cell in his tractor. Start with the 12.2 volts at overnight rest. It shows you a lot. Jeffcat

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Coloken

03-23-2007 03:00:55




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 Re: HF - Trickle Chargers - in reply to jeffcat, 03-22-2007 20:40:25  
Think you could be right on jeffcat. I was rembering a warning posted here a year or so ago. He could have been on a bad battery.



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