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Is a building considered a tool ??

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Jiles

03-18-2007 17:12:13




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I am thinking about a metal storage building or carport type building. I live in N.W. Alabama an there are many businesses selling a two carport for $695. These are made mostly of alunimum. Modified versions are offered that can be custom made into just about any size and shape. Many are barn style with open ends and some are enclosed garages with large sliding doors. They are ancored with large "corkscrew" type ancors that are screwed into the soil. Many are cheaply priced as compared to heavy gauge steel buildings. But, as in most cases, If you are lucky, you get what you pay for! My question is, how do they hold up under wind and snow load?

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Boley

03-19-2007 20:01:51




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 Re: Is a building considered a tool ?? in reply to Jiles, 03-18-2007 17:12:13  
Jiles,I also live in NW Al.I've had one of the carports you described since '01.It withstood hurricane Ivan without damage to my surprise,we lost some fruit trees and some shingles off the roof of our house during that one.They look flimsy,but the $700 one I have has been good against the weather here for 6 years.I park a Cadillac and a overpriced pickup under it,but don't trust it enough for "important things",my worn out tractor is stored in the house basement!Do you think my priorities are in order?Many on the tractor board would,I expect.Boley

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john cub owner

03-19-2007 19:31:25




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 Re: Is a building considered a tool ?? in reply to Jiles, 03-18-2007 17:12:13  
I have a 20x21 with the 2 feet height extension and heavier gauge uprights. In east central Mo. we don"t normally get too severe a weather, but it has survived an ice storm that collapsed some frame buildings, and a couple of windstorms that really devastated surrounding trees. I am happy.



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Truck

03-19-2007 07:39:59




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 Notes about carports... in reply to Jiles, 03-18-2007 17:12:13  
I sell carports in upstate NY, so this might be a little biased...

The ribs are located that way so the curved corners add strength and stiffness to the finished building. Place the ribs vertical and you will lose strength. If you are worried about leakage between the sheets, ask if you can have butyl tape placed on the seams, or use some sort of caulking on the seam. You may endup removing the roof panels to do this after the installers leave.....

All of the cheap carports use 29 gage steel roofing panels. If you have a source for 26 Ga you can really toughen up that building. Most have an upgrde to a heavier gage galvanized steel frame for roughly 200 dollars, and it will also get you an added foot of height. Might be worth it to ya. The basic carport is still a deal at teh price you quoted. You may want to add some cross bracing to stiffen it up if you get a taller structure or winds are a concern.

So much is dependent on the installers, that you need to be there for the installation.It might be helpful if you have someone who speaks the installers language as many are Mexican laborers who will try to get away with cutting corners if they can. Most seem to have little grasp of the leveling process, except the crew leaders. I doubt they make very much for the install so don't be a total jerk to them either...

DO NOT WRITE OUT THE CHECK UNTIL YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THE UNIT, you may never see these guys again if you take a promise to fix a dented panel or misalignment later.

The number one thing you can do to insure you get a good job is to have a perfectly level place for the install. If your land is off level they attempt to adjust by sliding the legs up on the lower frame piece before screwing them in. This lessens the overlap, making it weaker, and also automatically gets stuff out of square. NOT GOOD! Get a laser level or builders level and mark out the corners of your building and make certain that both side walls are parallel, straight, square and LEVEL within 1/2 inch if you can.

All the above said, a carport is the least expensive storage solution out there...A well built carport properly maintained will last a dencent amount of time for little more than a very temporary tent structure would cost. Don't waste your money on a tent style unit, they won't hold up more than a year or two.

You can add your own sides and ends later for cheaper than the sales brochure prices,if you don't count your labor as a cost. If you have a Meullers steel building supplier, check out their prices on tin and doors, etc. We don't have places like that up in NY, so I usually recommend they buy what they need from the carport supplier and get the job done in one quick swoop.

Good luck...I think you will be glad you got one!

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Jiles

03-19-2007 18:48:02




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 Re: Notes about carports... in reply to Truck, 03-19-2007 07:39:59  
THANKS for your professional input. You, no dought, sell a lot of structures. Just sorry I cant buy one from you!



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Mike M

03-19-2007 05:38:56




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 Re: Is a building considered a tool ?? in reply to Jiles, 03-18-2007 17:12:13  
We got one of those with ribbed metal roofing and I thought it was weird they run the ribs horizontal. Well when the snow was melting up there it is was leaking in through the seams. For winter you can wrap the sides with shrink wrap to help keep stuff out.



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dhermesc

03-19-2007 05:19:15




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 Re: Is a building considered a tool ?? in reply to Jiles, 03-18-2007 17:12:13  
I have a $795 version of the $695 carport, (taller with a overhang on the sides. It's made it through some pretty tough storms. Last spring the neighbor on one side lost his brand new hoop building and the neighbor on the other side lost his barn and that cheap little carport didn't budge. When I build a proper garage I'm going to move it and add walls and pens so it can be calf shed.



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KEH

03-18-2007 17:41:27




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 Re: Is a building considered a tool ?? in reply to Jiles, 03-18-2007 17:12:13  

I live in NW SC. I don't think either one of us are going to have enough snow to challenge those buildings. As far as wind goes, they make a model that has the steel posts sunk in concrete instead of using mobile home anchors. I think the price is the same. One of those buildings near me lost an arguement with a large tree limb, but the owners straitened it out some and are still using it.

KEH

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