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Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area..

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Truck

03-13-2007 17:00:01

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I am buying a 2B,1BA house in a small town southwest of Dallas as a winter home, but will probably end up living there year round.. One story, Pier and Beam foundation, wood frame. Currently it has window ac units and a gas space heater....It is on a small lot with a matching small price tag.

When I lived in Page, AZ, we used swamp coolers for cooling, and it was adequate while not being tremendously expensive...Are they even an option in this area? Would a heat pump unit like hotels use be adequate if one was in each bedroom?

Local electric company is really expensive..so I want to do this the most econimical way I can...

So....what"s the hot setup in Northern TX?

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Joe(TX)

03-14-2007 06:35:43

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to Truck, 03-13-2007 17:00:01

Swamp coolers don't work good until July. Your furniture will soon be unglued.
Window units work ok if you can get air to move between rooms. Central air works better if you want to spend the $4000 to install.
You do not have to buy from the local power company. You can shop around for the best rate. Anywhere from $11 to $14 per kwh. What was the rate for the local company?

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Sam#3

03-14-2007 21:29:24

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to Joe(TX), 03-14-2007 06:35:43

Having existed in Taxus for a few years nothing surprises me but don't you mean $0.11 to $0.14 per kwh?
I just checked my last bills for both my house and farm. They were nine and thirteen cents respectively per kwh.

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Joe(TX)

03-15-2007 04:41:17

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to Sam#3, 03-14-2007 21:29:24

You got me Sam. Forgot the decimal.

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banjo

03-13-2007 22:50:41

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to Truck, 03-13-2007 17:00:01

you want to remove the humidty not put more in the house. a/c does not condition the air it actually removes the humidity so it feels cooler, thats why you see water dripping outside of it. swamp coolers will also rust your firearms quicker if you have any.

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kito169

03-13-2007 20:03:02

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to Truck, 03-13-2007 17:00:01

I have an old farm house(built in 1917) 35 mi ne of Waco. It has 10 ft ceilings. For 17 years we lived there with window a\c units and dearborn heaters. All was good. 7 years ago we built a new home and rented the old one. My wife finally convinced me to buy central hvac for it. The ac bill wasn't that bad but the heat was $850 a month. not a heat pump. I like propane heat so I can back up to it. Also if power is out you still can heat with the dearborns. We turn off the central heat every winter and use propane logs in a Ben Franklin stove in the new house. Use only 100 gal each year.

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buickanddeere

03-13-2007 18:02:13

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to Truck, 03-13-2007 17:00:01

Water source heat pump. Wind Shakers are too loud. Seal every crack, crevis and gap. Air leakage control is even more important than insulation. Attic insulation and window blinds are vital.

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Cody N/E TEX

03-13-2007 17:49:38

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to Truck, 03-13-2007 17:00:01

I live 85 miles Northeast of Dallas,to humid here for swamp coolers even if you could find one. We cool our 47 year old house with window a/c units.

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Pappy

03-13-2007 21:58:28

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to Cody N/E TEX, 03-13-2007 17:49:38

Cody----Are you anywhere near Sulphur Springs or Cooper----??

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CODY N/E TEX

03-15-2007 20:11:23

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to Pappy, 03-13-2007 21:58:28

I"m about 5 miles northeast of S.S.

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SuperA-Tx

03-15-2007 07:16:09

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to Pappy, 03-13-2007 21:58:28

Im over in Wills Point but was in Sulphur Springs dropping off a Massey Ferguson front end loader at the dealer there on the interstate a little over a week ago. I think it was the day before yall made the news with the black guy attacking the white guy. Saw the Case dealer over there too, I didnt know there was one there, I usually go to Terrell.

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TimS in Mo

03-14-2007 13:03:52

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to Pappy, 03-13-2007 21:58:28

Consider using mini split ductless systems, they are real good for room additions and small houses like you described. You could have one outdoor unit and 3 indoor wall mounted a/c & heat pump units, one per room.

I bought a one ton unit for $600 or so last summer, it was for a room addition that had been very hard to cool in the summer, and it has done a great job for me. It has a heat pump as well, so we use it to help heat that room to.

http://www.ac-world.com/SplitAir.php

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TimS in Mo

03-16-2007 08:20:36

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to TimS in Mo, 03-14-2007 13:03:52

Swamp coolers work ok in a dry climate, but in one that is already high humidity, won't provide much felt cooling....

The nice thing about those ductless mini splits is just run them in the room you are in...turn on the living room one when you are in there and turn off the bedroom one, reverse that when you head to bed, so you only pay to cool the room you are in.

Ours is nice and quiet, you can hardly hear it indoors or out.

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Truck

03-15-2007 18:42:08

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THANKS EVERYBODY!!! No Swamp coolers then! in reply to TimS in Mo, 03-14-2007 13:03:52

Thanks for the info on the split units.. That looks like what all the hotels down here seem to use. Pricing seems decent at the source you listed. Not a whole lot more than a GOOD window unit.

Guess I'll forget swamp coolers for now..Unless I get one of those hi tech units for the shop someday.

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woodbutcher

03-14-2007 14:01:12

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Re: Heating/Cooling old house in Dallas area.. in reply to TimS in Mo, 03-14-2007 13:03:52

I live 65 miles northeast of Dallas. Everybody says it's not the heat, it's the humidity. I say it's both. In the 50's my Dad had a business installing water coolers (swamp coolers). We didn't get much relief from the heat from them, but they were cheaper than refrigerated units. I have a geothermal system in the main part of the house. It works great. For a room I added to the house I had a Fujitsu split system installed. I really like it, too.
Butch

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