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Farmhand 85 welder

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plh_in

02-27-2007 05:58:44




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Anyone have an opinion on this welder from TSC? I know its the bottom line model & my use would be only occasional... mower decks, etc. Maybe up to 1/8th steel.

Would this welder work for most homeowner/1 horse barn folks? Just trying to keep old mowers, etc. going.

Thanks for any input!




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John Harmon

02-28-2007 07:04:20




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to plh_in, 02-27-2007 05:58:44  
Have no opinion on the Welder in question but:My 110volt Lincoln Fluxcore Wire Feed is a joy to use. I seldom weld over 1/4" or less than 20Ga. and it handles this Range of Metals Very well. I even use it on an Extension Cord some times. It is not a Commercial Welder so keep that in mind when useing it.For heavier Metals I still use my 220volt Forney Stick Welder which I have had for 40 years.John

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dan hill

02-28-2007 02:05:18




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to plh_in, 02-27-2007 05:58:44  
Find a Lincoln 225 welder.I seldom weld under 100 amps.The Lincoln will run at 40 amps if needed.I fixed up a small welder for a friend.It was hard to use.I have welded for over 50 years and find it hard to use a small welder.I use a Miller 130 wire welder for some jobs.Mig welding is NOT easy.



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135 Fan

02-28-2007 17:44:08




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to dan hill, 02-28-2007 02:05:18  
In what way is MIG welding not easy? It might take a little experimenting to get it set right but it is easier to learn than stick. The biggest thing with MIG is to weave side to side to ensure proper fusion on both pieces you are welding. For thin material MIG is both way easier and usually better because it has less heat input and warping. Dave



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dan hill

03-01-2007 00:56:38




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to 135 Fan, 02-28-2007 17:44:08  
I have welded with both and find that mig is harder to do.By the time you get out the gas bottle and get everthing adjusted just right you could have had the job done with a stick welder.You can have trouble with warping with mig.Lack of penetration is a big problem.Transporting gas bottles is a pain.



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135 Fan

02-27-2007 17:47:39




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to plh_in, 02-27-2007 05:58:44  
For stuff 1/8 and under you're probably better off with wire feed welder. Much easier to use than the cheap 110 stick welders. Get a name brand like Lincoln or Miller or Hobart or you'll be constantly annoyed with it. Make sure it has the wire cold with the trigger off. If you buy a welder the best advice I can give is go to a big welding supplier. It might cost slightly more but at least you're dealing with someone who should know what they're talking about. They should have a demo room as well so you can try different machines out. Dave

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Stan in Oly, WA

02-27-2007 16:31:45




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to plh_in, 02-27-2007 05:58:44  
Hi plh,

Small, low power, AC stick welders are extremely hard to weld with. It is usually hard to strike an arc with one, and fairly hard to hold an arc once it is established. It would probably go better if you spent the money to buy 1/16� or 5/64� electrodes (at 3 to 5 times the cost of 3/32� or 1/8�) but then you�d be making multiple passes on anything thicker than sheet metal and you�d run into the welder�s other big limitation---low duty cycle. You usually need to crank those little machines to their highest settings to get them to cooperate at all, but their duty cycle at maximum output is normally 10% or less---often 5%. A 5% duty cycle means that you can use the machine for 30 seconds every 10 minutes. The manufacturer is not being modest about it, either. Overheat one of those little babies and they shut right down. And every time they shut down from the thermal overload breaker tripping, they are a little more heat sensitive the next time.

If you have access to 220V power, get yourself a used Lincoln, Miller, Hobart, Forney, Power Kraft (Monkey Ward), or Craftsman---in about that order. Craftsman welders tend to be picky about what electrodes they like. And some Power Kraft welders use an unreliable current adjustment system so that the setting will change as you�re welding (but you can make it work by clamping it externally.) Forneys generally use individual plug-ins for settings so they�re not quite as convenient to change the current, but they�re absolutely reliable.

If you have to have a welder that runs on 110V, good luck; it�s a huge limitation. There are undoubtedly good 110 welders I don�t know about, but in my experience there are only two decent 110V options---both expensive. Lincoln and Hobart make 125A-140A wire feed welders that owners seem to really like. (I�d steer clear of Harbor Freight�s Chicago Electric brand, though.) Lincoln and a few other reliable companies also make pricey little inverter stick welders. Lincoln�s 100A inverter is about $500, for instance.

All the best, Stan

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plh_in

02-27-2007 06:52:25




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to plh_in, 02-27-2007 05:58:44  
Thanks for inputs so far... Another thing I forgot to mention was, ease of use is especially important... I have not done any welding in the last 20+ years & a simple plug&"play" unit is a high requirement!



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Butch(OH)

02-27-2007 06:35:33




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to plh_in, 02-27-2007 05:58:44  
Few of us realy nead a Miller or Lincoln commercial type welder in the shop but they sure are cool tool-toys. I am sure the Farmhand will weld but I wonder if it breaks if it could it be fixed 2 years down the road. I spent a couple extra bucks and bought the Hobart 110V model. with gas attachment, it seems to bridge the gap between commercial and elchepo very nicely for my needs which are repairs just like yours and the occasional larger project. All of my heavy work still gets done with a stick machine only because it will do heavy work for much less money spent.

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jhill52

02-27-2007 06:11:48




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to plh_in, 02-27-2007 05:58:44  
It would probably work but I would go find and old Lincoln Tombstone welder. They work good and last forever. Tons of thewm out there.



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Tim B from Ma

02-27-2007 11:31:28




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to jhill52, 02-27-2007 06:11:48  
AC only machines are a dime a dozen, but finding an AC/DC Lincoln "tombstone" isn't so easy. Been at it for months - there was a spate of them a couple months ago but I didn't want to have them shipped - guess I should have.



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2t2@ia

02-27-2007 10:44:13




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to jhill52, 02-27-2007 06:11:48  
Sounds good. I am an elderly very poor welder. My welds hold but look awful. Don't know why, but some welders are much easier for me to hold an arc. Had an ancient Westinghouse 140 amp AC years ago that was easy, and my son has a Tombstone AC DC that I find very easy to use.



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m+j farms

02-27-2007 17:26:09




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 Re: Farmhand 85 welder in reply to 2t2@ia, 02-27-2007 10:44:13  
we have an old forney at one farm that must be older than dirt but absolutly bulletproof. i have seen them sell at auctions for $100. we also have a small century 130 110v wire feed on the service truck i got at farm and fleet about 8 years ago for $300. it is great for sheet metal and small stock and we use it quite a bit for repairs on grain systems and small fabrication. it dosent weld like the miller in the shop but it was money well spent..

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