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Stumpalump

02-18-2007 15:49:18




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What do you guys use red,blue'green? Any way to buy a bigger tube of generic stuff cheaper than those high doller tincy weency locktight tubes. Is this stuff similar to super glue?




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Joe(TX)

02-19-2007 18:03:11




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 Re: Locktight in reply to Stumpalump, 02-18-2007 15:49:18  
Why would you want a big tube of something that only requires a drop per application? There is a shelf life involved.
The differant colors are for differant applications. Use it for what is it is recommended. Is it pemanent or do you plan on taking it apart?
It's am anerobic adhesive.
You get what you pay for.



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PHIL KRIESEL

02-20-2007 12:18:37




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 Re: Locktight in reply to Joe(TX), 02-19-2007 18:03:11  
I have used loctite with expiration date way past and have had good luck with it. I don't work on airplanes and maybe it doesn't have all of its original power but I have never had a bolt back out with out of date loctite.



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Davis In SC

02-20-2007 17:49:36




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 Re: Locktight in reply to PHIL KRIESEL, 02-20-2007 12:18:37  
I agree on the expiration dates. Several years ago, I bought an assortment of the BIG bottles of Loctite, almost out of date, for a dollar a bottle. I just keep it in the fridge, it still works fine. Now, if I was working on space shuttle parts, I would not use it. I also always use the spray primer, if nothing else, it does flush any oil off the threads..



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Stumpalump

02-19-2007 13:54:17




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 Re: Locktight in reply to Stumpalump, 02-18-2007 15:49:18  
Thanks Gents, This site can sure give you a great edjucation!



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jokers

02-19-2007 09:50:19




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 Re: Locktight in reply to Stumpalump, 02-18-2007 15:49:18  
Here is a tidbit that some of you may find interesting. Loctite 271(Red) initially tastes like cherries, then it tastes somewhat astringent. Don`t ask how I know, lol!

I say that if the job warrants using a threadlocker, why scrimp on the product used and possibly set yourself up for failure? After trying different products I always use Locktite now.



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1936

02-18-2007 17:20:24




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 Re: Locktight in reply to Stumpalump, 02-18-2007 15:49:18  
Use the red that GM sells.



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jhill52

02-18-2007 16:23:34




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 Re: Locktight in reply to Stumpalump, 02-18-2007 15:49:18  
Loctite is available in several sizes of larger
containers. Most auto supplies can get them if you ask.



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NC Wayne

02-18-2007 16:22:24




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 Re: Locktight in reply to Stumpalump, 02-18-2007 15:49:18  
It depends on what your doing as to which Loctite you use. The green (608 isreal common) is actually listed as "retaining compound" and is usually used around bearing races to keep them tight in a bore. If used right and allowed to dry properly it can tighten up a loose bearing and keep it tight. The red ones are typically used on bolts that you don't actually plan to take back out but might have to. It will usually release enough to back a bolt out, with added effort, but actually needs to be heated to properly release. The blue ones are designed to lock a bolt that you do plan to take back out. It increases the likelihood of the bolt backing out on it's own but doesn't lock it quite as tight as the red. They also make a green one that is a "wicking grade" that is designed to be applied after the fastener is together. There are various different numbers (272, 274, 608, etc etc) used in each color of the Loctite and each has it's own use though they can overlap. Overall they are an anarobic compounds that when applied to a fastener, bearing, etc fill the voids left between the threads, bearing and bore, etc. After filling the voids they bond to each part and harden. This bonding, along with the filling of the gaps, helps keep the fastener or whatever in place by decreasing the tendency of the parts to slip against each other and loosen. Now I'm no scientist and I know there is more to it than this but that's how it was explained to me, and though a basic description, is how it works. As far as the "generics", Loctite, Devcon, and several others all make thread locking compounds and though one might be a little more expensive than the other, I have yet to find any of it cheap. The main thing is no matter what kind you use make sure the parts are CLEAN. Think about it, when a bolt is screwed into a hole the only place for the locker to go is in gaps left between the threads which are gonna be nearly microscopic so unless it's a big bolt, a drop or two will sufice on most bolts. In that case even a small bottle will last a long time for most people. Hope this helps some.

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Dan Frazier

02-18-2007 16:02:49




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 Re: Locktight in reply to Stumpalump, 02-18-2007 15:49:18  
I use the blue keeps bolts from vibrating loose and can still remove also recently heard that nail polish works just as well but havent tried it yet



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ZacsDad

02-20-2007 09:03:31




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 Re: Locktight in reply to Dan Frazier, 02-18-2007 16:02:49  
I"ve used nail polish. Seems to work ok. Feels like it took a little less torque to back the bolts out than if I"d used Loctite blue.



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