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SDE

02-10-2007 07:52:25




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Even Wal-mart did not have washing soda. I found Soduim Hydrogen Carbinate at a Spa and Hot Tub business. Will the hydrogen change the solution to an un-workable mixture? The posts about electrolysis said it creates hydrogen anyway.




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PaulW_NJ

02-12-2007 04:36:58




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 Re: electrolysis solution in reply to SDE, 02-10-2007 07:52:25  
Many folks use trisodium phosphate (TSP) in electrolysis tanks, which is readily available. I wouldn"t want a vat of lye around . . .too much splash danger.



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IH2444

02-11-2007 19:51:55




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 Re: electrolysis solution in reply to SDE, 02-10-2007 07:52:25  
Umm, just a thought , would wood ashes work ?



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Heat Houser

02-11-2007 15:57:52




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 Re: electrolysis solution in reply to SDE, 02-10-2007 07:52:25  
Do you have Fareway Supermarkets in Wisconsin?
The local Fareway (Oelwein IA)keeps Super Washing Soda on hand and is around $2.50 or so per box.

You can also go to Menards and get Lye. It comes in a small white plastic bottle and says 100% Lye on it. This is much more expensive than washing soda but will cut grease easier. Look for it in the drain cleaning section.

I have added the link for Frank in Tallahassee. He has an excellent article on what you are trying to do.

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Dan in Ohio

02-10-2007 17:41:02




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 Re: electrolysis solution in reply to SDE, 02-10-2007 07:52:25  
SDE, The chemical you need is NAOH, which is found in most drain cleaners in its purest form, also known as caustic soda. The chemical reaction that takes place when a current is applied releases hydrogen gas amoung other things. Many guys use red devil lye, although I have not seen or used this product. For an expert source on the subject search electrolysis on the john deere site. A guy name Frank (F-I-T) has done the research.

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Joe M(GA)

02-10-2007 11:44:08




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 Re: electrolysis solution in reply to SDE, 02-10-2007 07:52:25  
If all else fails hit your pool supply place and get "ph increase" or "ph plus"



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Keith-OR

02-10-2007 11:39:27




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 Re: electrolysis solution in reply to SDE, 02-10-2007 07:52:25  
SDE, if you have a Safeways store, they have Washing soda(Arm & Hammer)in the laundry soap section. Also Wal-Mart has Sodium Carbinate in the pool section, if I remember correctly it is call PH-Plus.HTH

I use Red Devil Lye in my electrolysis tank.

Keith & Shawn



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Kytomcat

02-10-2007 09:13:48




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 Re: electrolysis solution in reply to SDE, 02-10-2007 07:52:25  
Washing soda is sometimes known as soda ash and may be available from water treatment companies. it has a chemical composition Na2CO3, while baking soda is Sodium bicarbonate or NaHCO3. Washing soda has a ph of 11, as compared to baking sodas 8.1, so is corrosive and needs to be handled with gloves.
According to Dr. Dan Berger of Bluffton College, Washing soda will consume two eguivalants of acid as opposed to baking sodas one.
Washing soda can be obtained from several sources online, including Arm and Hammer.

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kidbob

02-10-2007 08:33:08




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 Re: electrolysis solution in reply to SDE, 02-10-2007 07:52:25  
I would go to a dealer for large diesel trucks. They will have the correct solution and a simple test to tell how much you need.



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