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fixerupper

02-09-2007 06:34:34




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This is a little O/T but we're all using computers. This computer is on wireless internet. The signal comes from the top of an elevator leg in town. In the early morning my net is lightning fast but as the morning goes by it slows down and it is really draggy in the evening, so I become very impatient at a time of day when that emotion tends to come out anyway. Internet company claims it's not their fault, that the net should be fast all of the time. I think they are pulling my leg. How does your wireless act? I do have access to a signal from another company and I'm about ready to fire the present one and try the new one out. Jim

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MarkB_MI

02-09-2007 19:40:13




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to fixerupper, 02-09-2007 06:34:34  
Your PC has a built-in ISP lie detector. It's called the "traceroute" command ("tracert" on Windows). It will tell you the time it takes for a packet to make each hop between your PC and a destination.

For example, you can type in (at the DOS prompt):

tracert ytmag.com

and you will see a list of addresses with times in milliseconds. Each line is a "hop". Not all hops will have times associated with them, just lines of ***s, because not all network devices will report back to your PC. Anyway, just see which hop takes the longest to complete (the biggest delta in time between that address and the previous address) and that's your bottleneck.

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Wayne H

02-09-2007 17:09:39




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to fixerupper, 02-09-2007 06:34:34  
Do a test of the network speed here:
Link

We get about 5.0 meg per second download all the time. Before the system was built out we saw the same stuff you all are talking about, the internet worked OK during the early morning hours or late at night, but in the evenings during prime time it dogged down. It's very likely not the big internet, but probably your internet provider needs to buy a bigger pipe to the net.

Wayne
www.flymha.com

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Rich Va

02-09-2007 07:03:43




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to fixerupper, 02-09-2007 06:34:34  
I have dsl and the same thing. Could it be more users in the evening slowing everything down? dunno. I have directv and it is super,never will go back to cable. Maybe I need to try wireless with my computer.



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DurangoCase

02-09-2007 06:59:19




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to fixerupper, 02-09-2007 06:34:34  
Wireless can be made from cable or DSL. If it is cable, the more poeple use it, the slower it gets. The service provider may not know how it is built out.



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JT

02-09-2007 06:55:53




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to fixerupper, 02-09-2007 06:34:34  
I find the same thing on my DSL, I normally will turn my computor off and let it reboot, then I am back to really fast speed. If you want to find out if it is your computor or their signal, go to www.speedtest.net, this will test your download and upload speed coming in and out of your computor, if you see no lag there, then it is in your computor. Thsi morning, my computor had been on all night, slow, run speed test, had Download of 5156 and upload of 673, rebooted, then computor was faster and speeds were the same. I can see a 10-15% fluctuation on these speeds though during the day.

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Rich Va

02-09-2007 08:59:03




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to JT, 02-09-2007 06:55:53  
Did you try the ActiveSpeed? Are you sure it's legit.



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JT

02-10-2007 07:12:06




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to Rich Va, 02-09-2007 08:59:03  
Yep, there are a bunch of speed tests out there, and they all run about the same speed, depending on the speed of the computor at the other end, etc. I tried this last night, my computor had went to warp snail, went to speed test.net, DSL was running at 5134, rebooted computor, then I had good speed on my computor again. But I only have 256mb of ram, gonna get another 512mb.



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fixerupper

02-09-2007 08:20:40




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to JT, 02-09-2007 06:55:53  
I'm going to try the speed test when I have the time this evening. The internet company tried to blame the web sites I visit. YT is slower in the evening and I understand that because we have more time to visit at that time of day. YT was a lot faster than Google News last night and usually google is fast. Like I said in my earlier post, at 7:00 this morn CST, the net was blazing along at warp speed on every site I visited so I can't believe it's entirely the fault of the websites. Jim

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Coloken

02-09-2007 06:54:10




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to fixerupper, 02-09-2007 06:34:34  
I run DSL (250) here. Some times, like 6 O'clock evening YT is very slow. No complaint, just fact. Seems to me that E-bay is slow most of the time. Heard E-bay runs over million items a day. Other times I think net is slow, like Sunday afternoon. This is just my thoughts so you can compare to yours.



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ebbsspeed

02-09-2007 07:02:29




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to Coloken, 02-09-2007 06:54:10  
The internet connections that most all of us use are "shared" meaning that many users share a certain amount of capacity, or "bandwidth". Compare it to a highway, if there are a lot of cars on the highway the traffic will be slower, whereas if you're the only car on the highway you can make pretty good time. Early in the AM, there aren't a lot of people using the internet, but as the day goes on a few more people log on. The worst time in almost all cases is the evening, when the kids are using up a big chunk of the available bandwidth playing internet games and doing research for their homework, etc. Your cable company is most likely not at fault, but they COULD improve service to you if you/they were willing to spend more $$$ of higher bandwidth connections and a higher density of wireless access points (the thing on the elevator).

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fixerupper

02-09-2007 10:31:13




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to ebbsspeed, 02-09-2007 07:02:29  
Well, I'm just trying to get some education and comparisons on this subject before I talk to the internet company again. They claim there is NO WAY they can be at fault when the net gets slow. I tend to think they are blowing smoke. Jim



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David - OR

02-09-2007 13:16:14




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 Re: O/T wireless internet in reply to fixerupper, 02-09-2007 10:31:13  
It sounds like you have a setup similar to mine. No cable, no DSL, (too rural) instead a point-to-point line-of-sight link from a big antenna on the side of your house to the top of the grain elevator.

I have problems similar to yours. Things are faster in the early AM, get really slow from 4 to 5 PM and again from 9 to 10 PM. My wireless link is 12 miles distant so the signal strength is not so great. I think there is more interference in the evening hours (neighbors with in home wireless networks?) so more packets get lost and have to be retried.

This is a different situation than plan old net congestion, busy sites, or shared cable modems. This kind of problem is specific to the wireless provider. Sometimes a slow site combines with an iffy wireless link to make it really frustrating.

If you have an internal wireless router in your home, try shutting it off and going with straight ethernet. Or configure the 802.11b to a different channel. Sometimes the in-home wireless interferes with the line-of-sight wireless to your ISP.

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