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T

02-07-2007 15:28:35




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I want to put a tank heater on my Bobcat, it has a block heater that I'm not impressed with at all, never been any good and takes forever to warm the engine.. where can I get a frost plug adaptor that will allow me to hook a heater hose to it to the bottom of a tank heater, the output of the tank heater will be no problem as I will just have to tee it into the heaterhose that flows into the head.

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fixerupper

02-08-2007 06:34:03




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to T, 02-07-2007 15:28:35  
135 has a good idea. If there's room in the water jacket for a bigger element, I'd go with a bigger freeze plug heater. It's much neater than hanging a tank heater on it and running hoses. Is the freeze plug in the middle of the block where it can heat everything evenly? Jim



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Ken Thies

02-07-2007 19:32:20




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to T, 02-07-2007 15:28:35  
They make silicon rubber pads to put on any thing you want to heat up. Several different wattages depending on the size of what you want to heat.
Little silicon and some duct tape to hold it until it is dry and you are good to go.
They are not fast but the work good for warming oil.
Maybe leave it plugged in over night and plug in the water heater in the morning.



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IA Roy

02-07-2007 19:07:52




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to T, 02-07-2007 15:28:35  
Go to your local Napa dealer and ask him to check for your specific engine.



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Bob

02-07-2007 18:37:47




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to T, 02-07-2007 15:28:35  
I have an old 1953 GMC truck with a 270 engine.

I installed a block heater by brazing a brass pipe fitting into a new "expansion plug", then pounding the altered plug into place in the block, using a little Loctite for extra safety.

That must have been 25 years ago, and it's still in place, with no leaks.



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Ken Thies

02-07-2007 16:20:40




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to T, 02-07-2007 15:28:35  
Would be easyer to get a T fitting that goes in the bottom radiator hose.
They are available in several sizes.



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T

02-07-2007 17:30:30




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to Ken Thies, 02-07-2007 16:20:40  
What I am going to try is taking the block drain valve out and hooking up there, it looks like 1/4" pipe thread, thats a tad smaller then a 3/8" ID on shed 40 pipe. I would think there sould be enuf flow and volume going thru it to maintain a 1000 watt tank heater..



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mj

02-07-2007 16:19:18




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to T, 02-07-2007 15:28:35  
I looked at the patent drawing on the link and I have no idea where you would find such a critter BUT I hooked a tank heater into the temp gauge fitting with pipe adapters, a nipple and a pipe tee of appropriate sizes. I put a hose barb on one side of tee and the thermocouple for the gauge in the other. OR, you could get a new freeze plug and braze a steel hose barb or even a short pipe nipple, into a hole drilled through the freeze plug for your hose to hook to.

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T

02-07-2007 17:32:56




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to mj, 02-07-2007 16:19:18  
good idea, but I have access to a machine shop so if I couldn't buy one like the drawing I can make one. I am going to try the drain port appraoch first.



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mj

02-07-2007 18:00:18




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to T, 02-07-2007 17:32:56  
Yeah, on my VAC I had the heater's lower hose going into the drain on the lower radiator elbow and the top hose on the heater going to the tee in the temp sending tap on the head.



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T

02-07-2007 18:03:51




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to mj, 02-07-2007 18:00:18  
about 10 mins of being plugged in and the heat gauge showed it had been out in the field workin all day?



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mj

02-08-2007 19:39:02




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to T, 02-07-2007 18:03:51  
Not really. As soon as the engine ran the gauge worked fine. Don't recall looking at it while I was starting it up and really didn't care what it said sitting still with the heater plugged in but to each his own.



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135 Fan

02-07-2007 15:57:11




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to T, 02-07-2007 15:28:35  
Why don't you get a higher wattage block heater? Philips Temro makes several. That's what Cats use when the OEM ones die. You could put a good circulating heater in the heater hoses as well. My bobcat also has a hydraulic oil heater for cold weather use. Dave



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T

02-07-2007 17:24:03




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to 135 Fan, 02-07-2007 15:57:11  
would like to know more about that hyd oil heater..

I have always like the circulating tank heater better then a block heater for the simple reason that they are fast, I dont want to have to burn electricity all the time to keep this machine warm enuf to start, I want to be able to plug it in for and hour or so and it will go, my old 825 Bobcat about 45 mins to an hour and it would fire right up with a 1000 watt tank htr, the problem with it was the hydraulics would take forever to warm up enuf to be able to put a big bale in the feeder. This 853 is much much better that way.

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135 Fan

02-08-2007 16:39:56




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to T, 02-07-2007 17:24:03  
The hyd. oil heater is just like a block heater except it threads into a standard pipe fitting on the hydraulic tank. I don't know how many watts it is but rememember reading somewhere that for heating oil a water heater element will work if it is used at half of its rated voltage. My heater was a dealer installed option and has the same cord as the block heater. Someone must make them. Check with a dealer or big equipment parts outfit. Hope this helps. I used to have a welder with Arctic modification. It had a circulating heater and an oil heater as well as a battery warmer. The oil heater was hooked up to the thermostat of the circulating heater. It also had the thermo-start taken off and an ether solonoid. Ether was never needed. It even started with gelled fuel after being plugged in for 20 minutes. Stalled a couple times but after idling for an hour would finally rev up. I wish I had that on all my equipment. It was awesome. Dave

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buickanddeere

02-07-2007 18:11:29




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 Re: Frost plug adaptor in reply to T, 02-07-2007 17:24:03  
Synthetic hydraulic oil thickens less with the cold and thins less with heat. Cheaper and less fuss than an oil heater in the long run.



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