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Chioce of mig welders

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Danny S.

04-22-2001 11:18:11




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Need opinions on some mig welders. Hobart Handler 175 and the miller 172. Miller has all copper transformer but I don't know if the Handler does. They both don't have infinite amp control. You only have 4 tap setting and I'am not sure if I would like that. Thiers a Century 170GS that has infinite amp control but not sure if its a good brand to go with. And the Lincoln SP 170. One has infinite amp control and one doesn't. How important is to have better amp control. I was leaning towards miller but I was cleaning my father in laws Thunder bolt stick welder up that he bought in 93 and noticed it looked all aluminum wiring. It looks like copper but if you look at wire the connections are it looks aluminum to me. Any help appriciated. Thanks

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tyler

02-17-2004 16:44:48




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 Re: Chioce of mig welders in reply to Danny S., 04-22-2001 11:18:11  
miller makes hobart



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Danny S

04-23-2001 18:21:03




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 Re: Chioce of mig welders in reply to Danny S., 04-22-2001 11:18:11  
Thanks for the input. I'am thinking of getting the miller. Hope its worth the money. Thanks, Danny



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Stephanie

08-12-2002 20:26:34




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 Re: Re: Chioce of mig welders in reply to Danny S, 04-23-2001 18:21:03  
I've just bought a 1940's...ish Hobart welder that is bigger than my full size duely flat bed truck. It's got a v8 flat head engine. I was wandering if you could tell me how much it's worth? Where can I get parts for the darn thing?



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Steve U.S. Alloys

04-23-2001 05:54:46




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 Re: Chioce of mig welders in reply to Danny S., 04-22-2001 11:18:11  
Hi Dan,
The copper color you noticed is a coating. Everyone is using Al windings now.

Hobart and Miller are both owned by ITW but operate as separate entities for now. The 4 settings won't limit you as much on a wire welder as it would with a stick welder. The wire speed control will allow you to infinitely vary the amperage between the set positions.

Any of the major manufacturers are comparable in general terms. Lincoln, ESAB, (Both the same company now) Miller, Hobart, and several other units such as Comparc who used to be Miller of S. America. The Comparc has dual process units available which includes a wire welder with SMAW capabilities built-in. Panasonic who enjoys a sterling reputation in factory automation also offers a similar product as Comparc.

If I was buying a wire welder today I would look for a remote contactor, built-in gas solenoid, steel drive components, availablity of additional drive wheel styles, thermal overload protection, and fan on demand feature. Compare the overall quality of the gun from one machine to the next.

The Miller 172 is rated at up to 1/4" in a single pass. The 185 is rated at 3/8" in a single pass. You may want to consider price difference between the two. The 185 will also accept a spool gun. Also, keep in mind that the material thickness ratings are based on carbon steel and will be considerably different for other materials such as Al.
HTH,
Steve

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Matt

04-22-2001 19:56:44




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 Re: Chioce of mig welders in reply to Danny S., 04-22-2001 11:18:11  
You might check out Welding Talk on hobartwelders.com, and do an archive search. There has been a lot of talk on the Handler 175, as well as the other brands. Should answer all of your questions.



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TexasJeff

04-22-2001 16:03:22




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 Re: Chioce of mig welders in reply to Danny S., 04-22-2001 11:18:11  
I bought a Hobart 175 about two months ago. It is working great for me :But this is the only one I have ever tried so I have nothing to compare it to. I did ask the welders where I work about hobart machines they all said hobart as a brand is very good but none had used any of the smaller mig welders. The 4 settings are enough for me considering that the wire speed adjusts the amp settings slightly also(according to the literature)I mostly weld 1/8" to 1/4" metal

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