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KEH

02-02-2007 15:22:47




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There has been some discussion on here about foreign made Sears tools. I was in a Sears store today and looked at the tools.

Craftsman wrenches are made in USA. I think Sears tried foreign made tools with Craftsman on them some years ago and they did not go over well.
Electric tools, drills, saws, grinders are made overseas, mostly China. The drills that are marked "professional" are made in China, same with 15 amp circular saws. Found one worm drive saw that was made in USA.

Also was in Home Depot(I have some interest in a 1/2 variable speed drill). The Ryobi rep happened to be there and he said their tools were made in China. DeWalts are made in Mexico. Milwaukee and Porter Cable drills and saws I looked at were made in USA. A 1/2 inch Milwaukee drill was $119, a 1/2 inch Dewalt made in Mexico was $139 . Being made overseas did not necessarily make them cheaper. Same story on circular saws.
Just for information.

KEH

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beperson83

02-12-2007 09:22:21




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to KEH, 02-02-2007 15:22:47  
I have a 1989 Nissan Hardbody PU I bought for $100 from work. The thing isnt all that bad. People have told me its not from overseas. They said it rolled out of a FORD plant in the USA. But I dont know. Can anyone help? Is a US vehicle or is it from overseas?


I also am looking for a 5 spd tranny for it. 4cyl, 4x4



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Little GB

02-04-2007 04:58:45




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to KEH, 02-02-2007 15:22:47  
Currently I am not working as a union employee. However I must say, blaming the unions for jobs lost overseas is NOT correct. Most manufacturing jobs in USA are NOT union. Many are small shops that you world be surprised at how little the actual worker gets. I currently work in management and I can tell you it is the other expenses that drive companies out of the USA. The government in USA is out of control. Individuals who work for the government realize premium benefits, healthcare, retirement, vacations etc. in which many working class do not. You want to make USA competitive with the rest of the world start by reducing costs in government by removing benefits they get that the working folks don�t. That includes teachers, you want full pay and benefits work the full year like the rest of us do.

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Eddie in MI

02-04-2007 05:46:52




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Little GB, 02-04-2007 04:58:45  
Oh great... there you go talking about teachers working a full years and you REALLY DON'T know what the hell you're talking about. We are contracteed to work 187 days a year in MI. That is ALL that we get paid for. But we can elect to have that sum dispersed in 26 pays throughout the year.

Do a little research before you start talking about others.



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730virgil

02-04-2007 20:54:18




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Eddie in MI, 02-04-2007 05:46:52  
mrs. 730 is retired teacher most teachers do continuing education classes during summer vaction . 6 hours of class are required every 6 years . she got 20 % returned of what it cost her toward her masters degree if they were approved classes . she took 78 hours of class past her masters of which she paid all of it . most teachers spend more than 187 days at work getting room ready , grading papers, meetings so on . these are days they are not paid for but are
required to do . on conference days she would be at school at 7 am and often not leave until 9 pm so she could meet with parents . she would do this 4 times a year twice was required . how many of you would do all this free stuff ? yea teachers have it real good dealing with union , parents , administrators any of them willing and ready to stab you in back at first chance . why she put with the bs that goes with teaching i have no idea .

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Mark Anderson

02-04-2007 09:27:37




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Eddie in MI, 02-04-2007 05:46:52  
187 days a year for a full years wage? they average worker puts in 250 days a year for the same deal .What makes the teacher such a great deal to the tax paying public? You get 1 week at turkey day and two weeks at christmas and one at spring break plus other one day holidays off.We had a teacher here get caught smoking pot with her students.She was 35 and had 10 years service and made 60k for her 187 day contract.By my math thats 320 dollars a day not bad wouldn't you say ?Also a superintendent that made 170k and couldn't keep his hands out of the cookie jar he's doing jail time now. His pay 909 a day.You teach the same subject for 5 hours a day year after year.Would you work year round for the SAME pay?And teach 5 different subjects.That would be the best for the tax payers. What is your base pay for just 187 days? You make it sound as if you one step from food stamps.Face facts You get paid very well for a PART time job with full benifits.Also my sister is a teacher and we argue about this all the time.

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Eddie in MI

02-04-2007 11:50:14




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Mark Anderson, 02-04-2007 09:27:37  
You argue because you're defending an irrational position. We get paid for the time that we are contracted. Somehow you see this as getting full time pay for a prt time job. Now, I cannot change your mind for you, but I can tell you to go thank a teacher for teaching you how to read this!



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Mark Anderson

02-04-2007 18:01:13




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Eddie in MI, 02-04-2007 11:50:14  
Eddie, Whats so irrational with MY opionion? I'm a tax payer that pays your wage this gives me a reason to complain that your over paid for the work you do or don't do! Bang for MY buck .The way I see it maybe you should be paid piece rate on your students that pass and graduate high school.Seems that anytime that someone questions the allmighty teacher they are always wrong! As for me learning how to read it was NOT a teacher that taught me but my mother.You fail to answer any of my questions, don't want to work year round for same pay? Maybe the problems with teachers is also a cause for the high drop out rate.How would you stop it? Willing to loose some pay over it? Still say 187 days for 60k is good money for part time work .Do you work a second job like many teachers do in the summer ? If my arguement has holes please point them out.If this got you wound up I guess my work here is done...

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Eddie in MI

02-04-2007 19:53:31




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Mark Anderson, 02-04-2007 18:01:13  
You still don't seem to get it. Teachers are paid only for the 187 days they work as per the contract. That amount is usually paid in 26 pays throughout the year. It's not like teachers are being paid for something that they aren't doing.

The rest of your questions should be addressed in your state. I don't make anywhere near $60,000 a year and I have my master's degree and almost 10 years in the field. I cannot speak to the situation where you live.

As far as I am concerned, you are going to think and believe whatever it is that you choose (regardless of misinformation)... and any of my comments are moot at this point. My only hope is that the next time you single out a group of workers you actually do your research and know what you are talking about first.


Oh, and Craftsman tools have always worked well for me. In fact, I plan on picking up a couple of their two and three arm pullers. Made in the uSA and the price/performance/warranty cannot be beat.

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Mark Anderson

02-05-2007 15:53:43




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Eddie in MI, 02-04-2007 19:53:31  
Eddie,Whats to get just because I don't see things you way I'm wrong? You should look at the link in the post below from the wall street journal seem's I'm not far off the mark 34.06 an hour .In detriot 48.00 an hour .You are just like any of the teachers I have had this debate with you think that because you went to collage your the only one that has a brain.Then when the school dist. want's you to take cuts you scream bloody murder it not fair that I'll have to pay more for health care and take a pay cut. maybe you need a dose of reality like the unemployment line.Do you really think 34.06 an hour if fair? when the average worker is well below 20.00 ?What State are you in Mich? If so you injoy all the fruits of this over paid under worked contract you have with your district.As for how your paid it doesn't matter how many time your paid you contract for set number of days for set amount of wages and bennies.GET ONE THING STRAIGHT YOU STARTED WHINING ABOUT BASHING TEACHERS AND I GAVE MY OPINION BACKED UP NOW WITH FACTS FROM THE WALL STREET JOURNAL !!!! Have a nice DAY!!!

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Happy were I am

02-04-2007 20:29:35




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Eddie in MI, 02-04-2007 19:53:31  
Just to throw fuel on the fire there was an article on the Wall Street Journal website about this very subject on Friday. Below is the link I think will work, just copy and paste to address line.

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mike a. tenn.

02-04-2007 09:45:21




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 Re: Sears tools??? time out guys!! in reply to Mark Anderson, 02-04-2007 09:27:37  
i don't wanna p*ss anyone off more than it seems some people are already getting, but why did we go from talking tools to arguments about how much teacher's wages are? there is another forum for this kinda thing...but i'd rather see you guys stay here, kinda cool off, and get back to talkin' about tools again so i can learn something? how 'bout it guys?....truce??

-mike



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john18436572

02-04-2007 03:39:22




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to KEH, 02-02-2007 15:22:47  
I don"t care what the quality of a Chinese made item is, it"s the priciple of the matter. I refuse to support an american corporation that moved it"s manufacturing to China to drive up profits for the CEO"s.

By the way, Milwaukee tools are owned by Techtronic industries of Hong Kong, so is Ryobi, and Homelite. A few days ago they bought Hoover vacuum cleaners out from Whirlpool...+...+... Oddly enough, they seem to manufacture atleast some of those items here, but ownership is still in Hong Kong.

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Radee

02-03-2007 18:42:42




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to KEH, 02-02-2007 15:22:47  
Wal-Mart is set to come out with it's sedan soon. Yu will buy them in the auto dept and they will have all the common parts in plastic packs in a parts aisle. All will interchange. So you can just snap out the computer chip and stick in a new one for 19.88----everyday low price. Same with radiator, fuel pump, etc. Later, a chopped off sedan will become the pickup model. I'm making this up--but----- maybe.

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cornfarmer

02-03-2007 15:22:21




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to KEH, 02-02-2007 15:22:47  
Politics aside, the real problem is that country of origin is no longer an indication of quality. Used to be, made in the USA meant the very best quality. Now, not so true. Dewalt, often manufactured in a foreign country, is at least as good as USA made Milwaukee tools. I have quit buying red tools and switched to yellow strictly on my experiences using the tools everyday. Judging by the toolboxes of the millwrights and other contractors I see, I am not the only one. I am more than willing to pay for a quality, union made tool, but that tool must have equal value to me. In other words, if it is higher priced, it must perform better than the import. If the union made tool is directly comparable to the import, I will buy the american-made version. What I will not do, however, is pay a premium for a lesser quality tool just to say I bought American-Made.

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jpuleo

02-03-2007 14:11:30




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to KEH, 02-02-2007 15:22:47  
Ant no right answer. Union jobs have created often unproductive and highly paid workers. Prices rose as the "working mans" wage did. End result no more buying power than when before all those raises. Downside is you cant go back. A home is 200k and Americans cant work for $2 an hour. Unions worked great in the days before global economy when the US was a closed fishbowl. Its not now.

I have to say though that unions went too far and it has created a world of many lazy and overpaid workers. I feel if you work hard and have real talent you dont need a union in this day.

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trw

02-03-2007 13:29:22




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to KEH, 02-02-2007 15:22:47  
I just came home with a new Makita 4" angle grinder a few days ago. I assumed it was made in Japan. I was wrong, it said made in CHINA!!!



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Bob

02-03-2007 11:23:18




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 Just curious... in reply to KEH, 02-02-2007 15:22:47  
What's the "fascination" on here about Sears tools, anyway????



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jhill52

02-02-2007 18:12:13




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to KEH, 02-02-2007 15:22:47  
The quality of the stuff China ship here is improving because we and the Japanese are teaching them quality control and improved manufacturinfg methods. Also you will probably find to levels of stuff made there. Better quality stud in many cases made by American and Japanese companies and shipped to to the US Europe and Japan. Then there is lowere quality stus shipped everywhere else where they can'e afford the better stuff.

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Ryan - WI

02-02-2007 16:33:19




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to KEH, 02-02-2007 15:22:47  
I realize that many years ago China used to mean junk, but they are actually getting quite good at manufacturing as of late. I saw something on the news and it said that with China's quality improving it will not be long and there will be absolutely no quality drop in overseas merchandise.


P.S. When did Mexico float away and become overseas?



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KEH

02-02-2007 16:41:30




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Ryan - WI, 02-02-2007 16:33:19  

You're right, that Rio Grande dosen't reach all the way across the border, LOL.

Yeah, the quality of Chinese tools seems to go up each year. I'm sure Taiwan has been worried for some time. The Sears 12 inch compound miter saw is made in Taiwan and is about $100 cheaper than the DeWalt made in Mexico.

KEH



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Mark

02-02-2007 19:05:23




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to KEH, 02-02-2007 16:41:30  
You watch....in 5 and no later than 10 years, automobiles will be made there and appearing on these shores. No, the price won't be significantly lower...the profits for the makers will be significantly higher. I get so damned sick of seeing working class folks blame the unions for being the cause of lost jobs. It isn't about anything but PROFITS, so the CEO's can make millions a year and stock holders all get a giant dividend. Since when was it wrong for working class people to expect and want to enjoy a decent standard of living? Most of the folks who scream unionized labor is the cause, have worked in high paying factory or utility company jobs, have had nice homes, health insurance and drove decent cars and have a pension to look forward to. They raised their families and lived a good life....even if their company wasn't unionized....but they benefited from the effects Unions have had on the economy. The Chinese have no Unions, never will and those people will likely not ever be able to afford most of what they produce. The Communists in control are now closet Capitalists and the financiers come in the form of big US investment (ie: companies who are after profits and nothing else).

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JT

02-03-2007 06:38:22




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I deal with an American company that is an American owned company and I though they sold Chinese generators. After a conversation with one of the employees, I found out they own the American company, own a chinese factory, using Chinese labor to build their product, said they can pay the Chinese labor, pay the shipping from Chine to the US and still sell their product cheaper than the product built in the US, and make good money. Why is this happening, we as the American public are begging for the Chinese to take out jobs away, we want merchandise cheap, and any more people do not care about quality, all they want is a cheap product and hope it last longer than the warranty.

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railhead

02-03-2007 06:15:41




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Mark , 02-02-2007 19:05:23  
Well, the unions HAVE produced a US worker that is lazy, apathetic, unreliable etc (list could go on and on and on). How do I know? I work with these lowlifes every day, pulling my load plus their slack. You can't fire them, you can't run them off, and physical assault is illegal so you have to live with them. If my job could be done from overseas, I know it would have ALREADY been moved there. Since the railroad track cannot be moved/maintained from chinese, I guess the railroad has to put up with garbage for employees. I fear someday that contractors will replace us. They already are trickling in. We have been without a Union/Company agreement for three years now. They cannot agree on anything.

Every time I get a slick flyer/magazine in the mail and see pictures of union guys in 1500 dollar suits I get sick. I know who put the suits on their backs. Unions may have had their place years ago but now it is no more than organized crime.

No wonder companies move away and cut their operating cost. I tell guys that here and they laugh. 95 percent of these idiots cannot see one day past their next paycheck but if they didn't get that next check, they would be on welfare with 4 or 5 snot nose kids in their double wides and a 300 lb ho ho eating wife.

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Scottp

02-03-2007 09:57:15




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to railhead, 02-03-2007 06:15:41  
Railhead
It must be terriable to have to work with a gun to your head! Why else would you continue to work with "low lifes". I have a great idea for you, quit your job if you hate it that bad. Then find a job that's pay hasn't been influenced by a union. I hope you enjoy flipping burgers. You are a wrong if you think you could or would be paid better with out unions or have a retirement. Unions are needed now more than ever. Unions are the only reason you enjoy the standard of living you have.
Who do you think build and laid the tracks you are working on. The Chinese and the Irish. So your job can be and was exported to cheap overseas labour.
Have a nice day!
Scott
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railhead

02-03-2007 11:25:10




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Scott,
I have considered a job change and there are jobs that pay as much as mine and are NON union. Then i could get advanced and not worry about getting bumped by a lowlife just because he has been leaching off the company one day more than I have been working for the company. I long for the day I can take this union seniority roster and wipe my a55 with it. There are guys above me that have bumped me that could not shine my boots on or off the track EVER. You may not be a lowlife but guys I work around are. Maybe you work woth some real men. I do not.

A man the shows up for work every day, is ready to work mentally and physically, and is ready to EARN his money, does not need a union of any type. Couldn't you use the 19 years of dues you have paid right now? What has the union really done for you? I wish I could keep my 71.50 a month. I would be as good off without the union.

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ScottP

02-03-2007 14:51:55




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to railhead, 02-03-2007 11:25:10  
Railead
I pay $92.00 a month in dues. Would I take all the dues back I have paid in and give up what those dues have gotten me, I don't think so. You will not find a job that pays near what your making that isn't affected by a union job some where. If it wasn't for the unions you would be getting $4.75 an hour. It don't matter where you work, there are always going to be lazy people.
They fire union people out of my barn all the time. By the way I'm number 2 on the seniority list and a foreman. I give my employer what they expect of me. No more and no less.
So I take it you have never use your seniority to bump anyone. Better shift, better vacation week?
Scott

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Mark

02-03-2007 12:16:46




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to railhead, 02-03-2007 11:25:10  
Mr. railhead,

You are exactly the kind I referred to in my previous post. You complain, yet reap the benefits of the Union who represents you. You can't tell me anything dude....I retired 3 years ago from CSX (the largest RR east of the Mississippi) after 27 years as an engineer. You might blow that smoke up somebody else's skirts, but not mine. I've been there and done it. You're problem is you're jealous because somebody else has the foreman's job and you don't...so you refer to them as lowlife's. More than likely, you're the kind who b1tches everyday because you ain't the guy with the white hat driving the highrailer and packing the motorola while somebody else (you) tamps ties. You think you should stand around with your hands in your pockets while the lowlife's tamp ties. HAR! I've seen more than my share of your kind. You resent the fact that there is a seniority roster and you're name isn't at the top...if you were the dude doing the bumping, it'd be a different story. I'll tell you right now, if there were no Union, there would be no seniority for you, regardless how deep you stand on it. I bet you complain every time the RR sends you a paycheck too don't you. Tell us that $180-$200 a day you earn, plus health, dental and eye care is worthless BS too. Tell us that after 19 years you enjoy 3 weeks paid vacation and 10 paid personal days a year and how you hate that too. Also tell these folks how next year..after 20 years of service you'll get 4 weeks paid vacation. Go on...tell them and how without a Union you'd still enjoy all these benefits. I KNOW the straight scoop, been there and done it. I worked a job I didn't particularly enjoy, but I raised a family, educated the kids, always drove a nice vehicle, bought and paid for a nice home, put money in the bank and a 401K program. I am 49 years old, owe no man a dime and never worked anywhere but the railroad after I was 19 years old. I injured my right knee 3 years ago and now draw a pension nearly equal to what I made and will the rest of my life....do that without a Union. Tell these fine people we railroaders fall under a workers protection act called the FELA (Federal Employers Liability Act) whereas when we get injured we enjoy something workers comp will never hold a candle to. You have it made and I know it. Go down to McDonald's or Autozone and get yourself such a deal. Maybe you should move to China or Mexico and see what it's like in a workers paradise.

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railhead

02-03-2007 14:10:40




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Mark , 02-03-2007 12:16:46  
Oh, you are the CSX hogger that was complaining about slow orders.

Well you know squat about what you are saying. I am the foreman. And yes, I am out there tamping ties. I am also my best trackman. I also patrol track on the Inspectors days off and even put slows out. To bother the TE&Y whiners? To create work for myself and my gang? NO...because I have a rule book 6 inches thick and a track spec book 2 inches thick that specify how the track must be to allow speeds of class 1-5. believe me, the last thing I want is to put out a track defect I have to drag my sick, lame and lazy gang out to fix.

You're wrong Dude.

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Mark

02-03-2007 14:29:15




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to railhead, 02-03-2007 14:10:40  
Yep, I complained about slow orders. I know about your rule book too...what rock you think I was under all those years I pounded the mainline? I'd run over a section a max authorized speed and 12 hours later come back and have to crawl over it at restricted speed and not a thing had changed..except it looked good on work orders for the next day to justify having the crew doing something. You think those of us running the trains weren't onto that ruse? HAR! I've gone through turnouts that'd almost knock us out of the seats, but there'd never be a slow order or a work order there...why? Because it'd tie up the main and shut the whole railroad down. I'll never stand and say one class of service was more important than another on the railroad...all contribute to the good of the whole. But that doesn't mean those of us doing our jobs weren't aware of what went on in other departments. You still haven't addressed the wonderful things your Union job entitles you to.

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railhead

02-03-2007 23:33:01




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Mark , 02-03-2007 14:29:15  
Well I will try to adress the wonderful things my "union" job entitles me to....

I have good health and dental insurance. I make 19.84 (union scale) an hour. I am subject to any hour call out. I get no more than time and a half for that.

I know that OG&E the electric company in my area, NON union, pays their guys better than that, full benefits, 401K etc. I know many many oil field guys that make at least twice my hourly wage but no benefits or 401k. I know that gas companies pay as well as I make, NON union. Pipeline welders and inspectors make 80-100 K a year with bennies. Some of my old head friends tell me that railroading used to be envied by others but anymore we make average wage.

Without the security blanket of the union, maybe some of these guys would produce and realize it could all be over tomorrow if they dont. The union has bred a very lazy breed of guys here, maybe it is localized..... I HOPE.

I didn't mean just because you are a hoghead you don't know what goes on in the railroad. Sure you do as well as I know that many of you guys dog a train so you can go dead as close to home as possible and get that return trip in a van. Heck our guys love slows and they don't mind being held up by maintenance, the longer the better.

BUT, you made accusation that I am the lazy one and the whiner and you have no idea about that. That was way way out speculation on your part and couldn't be more wrong. As God as my witness, I make my guys do everything right and they hate it but I don't ask anyone to do ANYTHING I don't do. I told them all at some point or another, they will have the pleasure of watching me die on the track before they out work me and BY GOD I mean that. I lead from the front and usually they are glad to observe from the rear.

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Mark Anderson

02-04-2007 08:39:55




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to railhead, 02-03-2007 23:33:01  
Railhead ,You seem very bitter about your job and co-workers. If it is that bad just quit and let someone else take your position,mabye they could work you under the table or off the rail given the chance.You have the benifits because the people before you worked hard to get to get them .Are you involved in the union? Do you go to union meetings? maybe you should look into a manigment position so you could start the paperwork and fire these low lifes.You should look in the mirror before you rant about your low life co-workers,never took a little longer break, called in sick when you where not sick,borrowed a pair of gloves for home, you get my point. If you are that good your headed for sainthood.I 'm a UNION CITY WORKER and 'am glad I work for a union.Everyone has good and bad in there jobs .Yesterday I spent the day in a bucket truck fixing our primary conductor in -20 windchill no one put a gun to my head .I went because I wanted to. And the pay wasn't bad either Mark A.

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ScottP

02-04-2007 09:20:45




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Mark Anderson, 02-04-2007 08:39:55  
Mark
The problem railhead has to face is no matter where he goes he still won't be happy. There are jobs out there that pay more than his. Mine is one, however the pay scale at those job is because somewhere a union fought to get the wages where they are. Pipeline weldor and inspector making 80K sure but how many hours overtime are they working and where.
Same goes for the oil field. The power companies are on stand by also. Some how, some where railhead felt he was done wrong and he's blaming the union.

In 1992 there were 28 people on the seniority list in my shop now there are 9. The building is still over 800,000sq. ft and the same amount of rolling equipment is still there and they expect us to keep it maintained. HA! They are now trying to hire two new mechanics because three are retiring.

The one I like to hear from the cry babies is "I've quit better job's than this" I tell them what's holding you back. Momma got your marbles. Now shut up and go unplug the toilet.

So railhead go unplug the toilet, and laugh all the way to the bank.

Scott

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Mark

02-04-2007 10:10:28




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to ScottP, 02-04-2007 09:20:45  
Scott,

I worked 3rd shift for eleven years because my seniority wouldn't afford me a day shift job. I didn't know what the rail yard looked like in daylight! I worked on call the last 15 years after I went to the mainline. No scheduled days off, no regular schedule...subject to call 24/7 and for most of those years, I operated locomotives older than I was..they were cold and drafty in winter and hot as hades in summer. Sure there are deadbeats amongst the workforce..they are everywhere. If the railroad could run trains without human crews, they would. Why? Higher profits. It's all about profits....all companies want us to consume their goods, but don't want to pay us to make or transport them. If their operations allow them to move offshore and hire people for peanuts..they do. Then they run back here with the goods and expect those they refuse to employ to buy them.

When I was a schoolboy, I recall reading a lesson that said: "The reason the American economy flourishes is because it imports raw materials and exports only finished goods." Read that again! The exact opposite is true today and why our economy is down the drain. Our manufacturing base has disappeared because the fat cats have ran to China and Mexico and other third world countries...for profits. Our Government has dropped the ball by allowing imports to flood our markets. This 'Global Economy' BS is a term coined to brainwash the consuming public into accepting this sad state of affairs. It is a ruse to blame the victims (the unemployed US workers) as being responsible for the jobs going elsewhere. This is a LIE! The manufacturers leave because of profits and no other reason.

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jack-Iowa

02-03-2007 08:39:53




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to railhead, 02-03-2007 06:15:41  
Yep pretty much like government workers cept the government workers get to keep there high paying jobs with benefits.



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Easy1

02-03-2007 08:03:56




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to railhead, 02-03-2007 06:15:41  
With wage rates of 2% of the US, I don't care if youre union, nonunion, illegal mimmigrant or whatever, you can't work that cheap, and survive here. When the Mexican president complains about the chinese competition as having "basically nonexistent wages", how can the US workers compete?



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Davis In SC

02-02-2007 21:27:07




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 Re: Sears tools in reply to Mark , 02-02-2007 19:05:23  
A Chinese auto is slated to go on sale here this year. The name is Chery. The same importers that brought in Subaru and Hyundai are going to market it..



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