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Corn Stoves..what's the deal?

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Mark

01-28-2007 16:47:52




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I keep reading posts about corn stoves. Can you folks please enlighten me as to what the rage is all about? First, I don't understand why the corn has to 'cleaned' first. Secondly, does corn have a huge BTU content? How much corn does it take to run one on a daily basis when the temps are in the 20's? Thanks!




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FarmerPaul in Ont

02-02-2007 03:38:42




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Mark , 01-28-2007 16:47:52  
I heat my shop with with a corn stove, it is about 15 degrees F out side and it is about 60 degrees f inside. about 2 bushels of grain per day. I burn corn if I can get it cheap enough otherwise ,white winter wheat goes in the stove. It is alittle harder to lite but burns just as well as corn. The added bonus for me is that it can be used straight out of the field.



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Ray

01-29-2007 15:39:47




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Mark , 01-28-2007 16:47:52  
With the price of corn fuel oil would probably be cheaper now.



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nw_bearcat

01-29-2007 05:43:47




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Mark , 01-28-2007 16:47:52  
I bought a couple of bags of "Corn Stove corn" from the local feed mill early in the fall when corn was below $3. Paid $4/40# for corn that was supposed to be great for corn stoves...they sell it to burn all the time...got it home, tore open the bags and found it was about 40% cracked corn, looked like it had been ran through about a dozen augers getting to the bag, pretty bad stuff. My Harmon did burn it, but it didn't seem to put out the heat as well. Large chunks of cob will wedge the auger.

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Midwest redneck

01-29-2007 02:31:55




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Mark , 01-28-2007 16:47:52  
I bought a US stove (corn and pellet stove) I bought the stove so that I could cut down the amount of Propane that I am using per year (about 1300 gallons of propane per winter) OUCH. Which is about $2000. I use about 100 lbs of corn per 24 hour period, which is $7/100 lbs. (screened and dryed) The wood pellets cost $12/100 pounds. And the most important part is that my great room is toasty warm, my corn/pellet stove is running right now 5:30am monday. and it is 76-78F in here right now. (a little colder in the bedrooms) I dont run the stove while I am at work though. It has to be dryed (obviously) and screened so that dust, and cob bits and other stuff doesnt clog it up (I am guessing here) I would love to just run a wood stove all day, but I dont want to get up every 2-3 hours to load it at night. The corn stove is self feeding with an auger. Bottom line-----It will save me money this winter, about $500. (and I would rather support American farmers rather then support big oil companies and terrorists) Look up the BTU's of corn on yahoo.com and it will give the specifics.

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buickanddeere

01-28-2007 20:37:30




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Mark , 01-28-2007 16:47:52  
Some of those corn stoves are actually multifuel. If the price of grain goes sky high then wood pellets or stoker coal will work.



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Ryan

01-28-2007 17:56:34




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Mark , 01-28-2007 16:47:52  
It may not be necessary to clean the corn but it nice not having bees wings flying around your house all the time. Bees wings will also make sparks and I suppose large peices of stalk could jam up an auger. I like the corn stove b/c I would rather give a neighbor my heating money and keep it in the neighborhood. There is very little smoke with a corn stove, only when lighting or when it is going out b/c it needs clean will it ever smoke. I put just about 2 5 gallon buckets a day in mine it runs 24/7. The curtain move in our house when the wind blows we have a stove rated at 45-60,000 btu it is enough when the wind does not blow but I have free standing propane that I would normally have to fill up every 5 weeks I still have 60% left and about 700.00 corn I am feeding some out to goats and burning the rest should have plenty of corn till spring. Lots of people in the area are going to the corn stove mostly b/c they can raise their own fuel, we plan on raising corn next year. The other thing about cleaning the corn is you don't get the build up of fines the in the bottom of your hopper bin but like I say there are many who don't clean it and get by okay, but I think the stove stays cleaner when you do, I built my own gravity cleaner that with some wind takes out fines and bees wings.

Ryan

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Mark

01-29-2007 04:39:21




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Ryan, 01-28-2007 17:56:34  
Ryan, redneck, et el;

Thanks for the education you fellas have given me. I kept seeing posts about corn stoves and wondered about them. As for cleaning the corn....when I shell it, the blower pretty well gets rid of the chaff, etc., and I couldn't understand if it required further cleaning or what. I see the old-time fanning mills being grabbed at auctions for mucho bucks....now I have an idea why.

As for growing fuel...not a thing wrong with that idea. But it is like anything else...supply and demand. Demand goes up, so does the price....everybody hopes to exploit the market. If the price on the stoves wasn't so darned high, I'd look into one.

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Midwest redneck

01-29-2007 15:28:57




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Mark , 01-29-2007 04:39:21  
I paid $2000 for a Usstove, model 6039 and that included the vent pipe.



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Steve Crum

01-28-2007 17:26:45




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Mark , 01-28-2007 16:47:52  
According to the DOE, a bushel of corn has the same BTU output as 3.2 gallons of fuel oil. Last I checked, I could buy about 25 tons at less than $3.00 a bushel + trucking.



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Howard H.

01-28-2007 20:03:04




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Steve Crum, 01-28-2007 17:26:45  

Just curious where you are - cash price at the elevator is 4.35 the last I saw...

That's at Wheat Growers in Texhoma, OK

HH



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Steve Crum

01-29-2007 04:50:19




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Howard H., 01-28-2007 20:03:04  
As I said, "last I checked", But it has jumped considerably since then.
That's was the price in central New York per our contract back in mid December. We use about 150 tons a week.



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Mark

01-28-2007 17:32:12




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Steve Crum, 01-28-2007 17:26:45  
$3.00 a bushel corn? Sure can't get it for that here.

Anyway, what's the scoop on cleaning the corn before feeding it to the stove?



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IaGary

01-29-2007 04:41:09




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to Mark , 01-28-2007 17:32:12  
So that cobs and stalks don't plug the automatic feeder of the stove.



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GeneMO

01-29-2007 20:08:38




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 Re: Corn Stoves..what's the deal? in reply to IaGary, 01-29-2007 04:41:09  
A friend of mine is big in the Missouri Corn growers. He and two other guys got a grant from somewhere to do a feasability study of pelleting the dried distillers grain which is a by product of ethanol plants. The cost of the DDG"s and the pelleting appear to make it cost more than the wood pellets. Just and FYI, they are looking into many things. Cant wait for Hydrogen stoves. Just pour in tap water!!!

Gene

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