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Dave 50 8N

04-18-2001 12:08:49

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Got a couple of arc welding questions for you experts! I've used one very minimally before and made some holes.

Posts on this board recommended I get an arc welder (vs. my o/a set up) for a project I need to do. I've seen this welder at Harbor Freight. (see link below)

Questions:
How does the duty cycle work? So many minutes on, so many at rest?

Do I need a dedicated 110/115 circuit?

Re: welding current. This one says 30-140 amps. Can I get 140 amps out of 110/115 vac? (this one has a 230 vac option too). Does it just mean the welding will go slower at that welding current?

thanks!

Century arc welder

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project update....Dave 50 8N

04-20-2001 22:22:27

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Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to Dave 50 8N, 04-18-2001 12:08:49

I took the day off today and was planning on beginning my rake project, but the Quality Farms/CT/FISCO flyer came Thurs, and a King Kutter 6' rake was on sale. I figured I could only make it for about $100 less than the sale price, so I went and got it.

I did get more acety. gas, so I'll be practicing my o/a welding. Neat thing, is that the gas place was next to a welding/cast iron place that sells ornamental gate/door castings. I plan on checking out their stock for future projects.

It was a good day.

Thanks again for your replies!

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DaveInMI

04-20-2001 02:33:34

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Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to Dave 50 8N, 04-18-2001 12:08:49

I had one of these 110v welders when I was stationed overseas living in military housing. I was surprise how well it worked. It welded up to 3/16" thickness with penetration and a nice bead. Weld and wait was better than not at all.

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RON/PA

04-19-2001 03:52:25

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Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to Dave 50 8N, 04-18-2001 12:08:49

DAVE, I bought one of these 110 welders from sears, You should know that when it says 20% duty cycle, you will sit and wait 80% of the time. Mine works great for light sheet metal repairs in the field, (which is what I bought it for) but don't count on it to do heavier implement repair. LOL RON/PA

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Dave 50 8N

04-18-2001 22:53:38

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Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to Dave 50 8N, 04-18-2001 12:08:49

Thanks for the comments!

This model is on close out at the local Harbor Freight Tools. I think I know why now. I want to make a few simple implements...landscape rake and lawn roller (from old hotwater tank).

Probably use 3/16" square channel and angle iron. Think I'll try it first with my o/a gas welder first and try to do it that way.

I'll keep an eye out for a good used lincoln welder, too.

later!

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Texas Jeff

04-18-2001 20:46:58

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Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to Dave 50 8N, 04-18-2001 12:08:49

My advice is to stay with the major brands 230 volt ac/dc if possible. I have a Miller 225 ac machine that is 18 years old still weld as good as the day it was new. Never have hit the duty limit yet.

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Steve Tx

04-18-2001 18:32:59

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Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to Dave 50 8N, 04-18-2001 12:08:49

Dave, that is a Chicago Eletric welder. I bought one about 7 years ago. I was disappointed when the thing was only 115 amps and not the 140 amps it said it was. It also did not come with a plug. I had to buy a 110 or a 220 and put it on so I put a 220 on it and rig a apt for 110. If I welded at 110 I could only up the amps to about 70. It had a switch you could flip to either volt. It was O.K. for something like a broken rake or handle but it was aggrevating when trying to weld a bigger project. It didn,t have a fan and the thrmostate would always kick out. Also could smell insulation getting hot. If you kinda check around you can find a good used Lincoln 225. If not I would buy a new Lincoln or Miller 225. I had both and they are very nice. You won't regret it. But I think you will by buying the Chicago Eletric welder. Hope this helps

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Tom

04-18-2001 17:43:50

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Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to Dave 50 8N, 04-18-2001 12:08:49

I have a Lincoln 225, it was given to me by the daughter of the farmer I used to work for as a kid, back in the late 60s, when he died. It was used on the farm for 10 or more years, has sat outside, in his damp basement, and in my basement shop. It still welds as good as it did when he got in about 1969. have never had a problem with it. Duty cycle?? what's that, I weld what I want and it has done it. However I don't usually have to weld a long time at high amps. Love it. Get one. That's my opinion.

Tom

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Al English

04-18-2001 17:29:33

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Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to Dave 50 8N, 04-18-2001 12:08:49

Hi Dave, The welder you're looking at has a very short duty cycle, which means it is barely capable of doing its job. And I would bet it welds poorly on 115 volts compared to 230 volts. Although it is cheap, I don't think you'd be happy with it. I agree with bill and Scott. A Lincoln 225 is a good machine for the money, most people have enough power coming in to run one, and it welds well enough not to allow you to develop your welding skills. There are a lot of 225's around, so you might find a deal on a good used one. Good luck...Al English

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bill

04-18-2001 15:58:37

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Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to Dave 50 8N, 04-18-2001 12:08:49

dave,

I purchased a lincoln 225 ac/dc welder about 5 months ago. I was in the same situation you are now in and through posts I decided on the above welder for my needs. With 35' of extended welding leeds, my total cost is probable around $380.00 Best buy is from Home Depot store. I love the welder and it will handle anything on the farm that needs repair. It is an exceptional machine and I believe has a 20% duty cycle. This means you can weld for 2 minuites on the highest amp setting. One never does this however and I weld continuously at amps up to 125. Never has cut out on me yet. Any way If you can spring for the money I remomend the Lincoln ac/dc 225 machine.

Good hunting,

Scud

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Andy

04-20-2001 19:36:44

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Re: Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to bill, 04-18-2001 15:58:37

Scud, what state are you in?
I am in Florida and I called my
local Home Depot and they dont
carry welders. The tool guy
said if I got a sku# that he could check with other stores.
Andy

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cliff

04-18-2001 19:11:51

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Re: Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to bill, 04-18-2001 15:58:37

they are right i also have same set-up and it works great well worth the money no contest between the two just my 2 cents

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Scott Green

04-18-2001 16:56:35

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Re: Re: Arc welder recommendation in reply to bill, 04-18-2001 15:58:37

Bill , I have the identical welder , with the same amount of leads. You are stearing Dave in the right direction. Perfect set-up.

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