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Mig Welding with a Stick Welder?

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MO

04-14-2001 05:29:51




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I have a Miller 300 XT welder. After reading all the negative feedback on this forum about the lower priced mig welders, I was wondering about just adding a wire feeder to my miller. Is this an acceptable option, or are there problems going this route, too? I don't need a lot of capability here, just think the mig would be a good way to go for sheet metal - mostly auto patch panels. I also have seen mention of a spool gun. Is that something I should consider? Thanks alot, MO

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Brad

04-14-2001 20:44:52




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 Re: Mig Welding with a Stick Welder? in reply to MO, 04-14-2001 05:29:51  
Hey Mo,
Here's what you do. Sounds like you have a CC only machine. If that is the case, and you are only going to weld on thin sheet metal, go by a power invertor ((jumper connection)) to TIG weld. It's a metal piece that's shaped and made to plumb up an argon tank, hook up a tig torch and you take your stinger, ((((that is hooked up to your DC stick welder)))) and clamp it on to this jumper and your TIG torch becomes "hot." For an argon tank, a low end air cooled torch and this jumper your looking at about $275-$325. Scratch starts though. You only need straight polarity to TIG steel, you will get alot less metal warpage than you would with the mig. But, how low in amperage will your machine go? Just another option...

Brad

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bob w.

04-14-2001 10:58:43




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 Re: Mig Welding with a Stick Welder? in reply to MO, 04-14-2001 05:29:51  
the welders at work have hobart wire feeds , they look just like a regular wire feed but dont have the transformer in them the hook up to an ark welder , they seem to work very well in an industrial setting so i am shur it would work well for you , the only thing i would check out is if the duty cycle is high enough on you arc welder i would think you would want something close to 100% any way hope this helps

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T_Bone

04-14-2001 07:07:03




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 Re: Mig Welding with a Stick Welder? in reply to MO, 04-14-2001 05:29:51  
Hi Mo, I couldn't find your 300XT listed under the several hundred machines that Miller makes to see if it was a CC/CV machine. You need CV (constant voltage) for a good Mig welder. Alot of the cheaper Mig machines are CC ( constant current) but thats good as you can Tig, stick or Mig weld with these just not very well.

Spool guns are for aluminum and you really don't want one as there heavy. Hold a 4lb single jack hammer in your hand for awhile and thats what a spool gun would be like. Since aluminum wire is soft it dosen't push thru a 10ft liner so thats why you need the spool gun as the wire spool sits in the gun in your hand and travels 6".

If you can add a wire feed drive only get a Tweeco gun. There the best. A good wire feed head will cost you about $2000 but Miller builds one of the best with Linde only being better.

I would suggest act/oxy brazing the repair. As metal viberates on a auto body it will work harden and by brazing you stress relieve the surrounding metal as you weld it and it won't crack out like Mig welding will if not stressed relieved.

T_Bone

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Al English

04-14-2001 06:34:49




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 Re: Mig Welding with a Stick Welder? in reply to MO, 04-14-2001 05:29:51  
Hi MO, The "volume" control on stick and TIG machines regulates current(amps). MIG welders are voltage controlled. I've never tried it, but considering the differences I doubt one can do what you were asking about. Good luck...Al English



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