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Raining in my shed today

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pbutler

01-02-2007 08:33:16




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We had a good frost last night and this morning when I went out to the metal shed it sounded like it was raining.

Every 3ft was a line you could see across the shed-got a couple manuals pretty wet and some clean steel I had out is now rusted-combine sickle, etc.

This is a 60x80 with gravel floor.

I know part of that is just the nature of living in a heavy freeze/thaw area but is there anything I can do to decrease it? Seems to defeat the purpose of the shed if I get my stuff rained on 15 times a year. :)

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Pitalplace

01-02-2007 13:56:52




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 Re: Raining in my shed today in reply to pbutler, 01-02-2007 08:33:16  
I put 2 ft overhang on my 40x64 and A cupola on top. Evidently with this air flow I have had no rain in almost 3 years.



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crazy8

01-02-2007 12:53:15




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 Re: Raining in my shed today in reply to pbutler, 01-02-2007 08:33:16  
We had the very same problem. We found a guy to blow insulation on it, the insulation sticks directly to whatever its sprayed on. Kinda looks like your in a freezer.



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Hal/WA

01-02-2007 11:35:46




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 Re: Raining in my shed today in reply to pbutler, 01-02-2007 08:33:16  
If you didn't insulate the underside of the roof metal, you probably need to, with a vapor barrier on the inside. Ventilation also helps and plastic under the gravel might help some, if that is where the moisture is coming from.

When the roof (and wall) metal is cooler than the interior air and the humidity inside is high, there will be condensation on the inside of the metal and if there is enough moisture, it will drip. I will never build another metal building without using the insulation and vapor barrier that is available for that purpose. Even an open sided building will have some condensation under the right conditions. Using the insulation and vapor barrier virtually eliminates the problem. It is easiest to install when you are putting on the metal, but there are other ways to accomplish it. Good luck!

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pbutler

01-02-2007 11:40:18




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 Re: Raining in my shed today in reply to Hal/WA, 01-02-2007 11:35:46  
Good info, thanks?


Unfortunately my building is already up. :)

So do youhave any specific product you would recommend as far as vapor barrier and insulation that could be practically installed on an existing building? Something you could get at Lowes/Home Depot type place?



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Hal/WA

01-03-2007 14:56:39




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 Re: Raining in my shed today in reply to pbutler, 01-02-2007 11:40:18  
Without looking at it, it is hard to explain. If your building is of pole construction, with large, heavy trusses at the poles, then there should be purlins between the trusses that support the roof. If those purlins are spaced at a standard distance, 16" or 24" on centers, and they are made of wood, it shouldn't be too much of a trick to get fiberglass of the right dimension and to install it between the purlins. Then cover the fiberglass with heavy poly sheeting (I think white would look the best) stapled to the purlins. If there is a space inside the trusses, that could be stuffed with fiberglass. I would continue the vapor barrier over the trusses and seal the edges with duct tape to prevent the interior moisture from going through the gaps. It is a big job, but would also help hold out some summer heat transfer and be winter insulation so you might be able to heat the building sometimes.

Of course another way would be to remove the roofing and put the proper insulating vapor barrier down before you put the panels back on. This would be a lot cheaper, but not a bit practical for doing this time of year. That method would not do much beyond stopping the condensation. The insulation is not very thick, just enough to hold the vapor barrier off the inside of the tin. But it should stop the drips.

If your building is stick built, with conventional rafters or trusses, the fiberglass bats are installed the same as they might be in walls. Adding the plastic vapor barrier with trusses would be a lot of work and a challenge to get tight. It might be easier to remove the tin and add the regular thin barrier. When I have built buildings using regular trusses, I have fully sheeted the roof with OSB and added a layer of 30lb felt under the roofing. No condensation and no leaks...but fairly expensive.

It's sure too bad that when they built your building, they didn't install the insulated barrier! Good luck.

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IH2444

01-02-2007 09:32:49




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 Re: Raining in my shed today in reply to pbutler, 01-02-2007 08:33:16  
heavy poly sheeting under the gravel will help some.



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glennster

01-02-2007 08:36:56




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 Re: Raining in my shed today in reply to pbutler, 01-02-2007 08:33:16  
i have a 60X120 morton building. part of it is insulated, the rest is not. i get rain in the un insulated section of the barn a lot too. seems like as soon as the sun comes up and starts warming the roof, it rains in the barn. about the only way to stop it would be to insulate the underside of the tin. i may look into some spray on type when i get a little extra $$$$ laying around



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