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F100Panel

12-27-2006 15:13:09




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I love playing with old equipment. I find & join many websites such as this one as I bring home different toys. I always see Kroil mentioned as one of the best penetrating oils but can never find it in my area. My latest toy brought home had me looking for Kroil. The manufacture did not seem to have a website. Spray cans I find on the web were expensive, about a dollar an ounce plus shiping. Found it by the gallon on E-Bay, $45 a gallon + shipping. Found it for $40 a gallon + shipping on Amazon.com. Then while doing a Yahoo search, after going through many pages I found reference to a March 1997 forum post/forum unknown where a guy had the factory phone number for Kano Labs in Nashville & said in 1997 $ it was the best price he'd found. I took a chance & called the number (615-833-4101) & they sell it for $31.65 a gallon + shipping. The 1997 post referenced a "Get Smart" special & I asked about that & doggone! They stil had it. A Gallon of Kroil + a 10 ounce spray for $45 with FREE shipping. Thought I'd pass that on....

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D13

12-29-2006 06:20:02




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 WD40 and PB in reply to F100Panel, 12-27-2006 15:13:09  
WD-40 is a Water Displacement compind that has some lubricating properties. It has drawbacks, like the gummy residue and it's ability to remove chrome on sliding parts (like fooseball shafts). I keep a can for drying ignition parts, works great. Haven't bought any for any other reason since I found Kroil.

Haven't bought any Kroil since I found PB Blaster. It seems to creep better and not have the silicones (bad for paint jobs...). Kroil seems to be a better solvent, so if the stuck part is gunked, it beats PB. My buddy used it and some hot/cold cycles to remove a breech plug from his 1780's rifle after all othe rtechniques had failed. Took about a month but it cut thru the powder and rust to get it done. I keep some Kroil on had for such things, but day to day I use PB, easier to get and pretty cheap on sale at Murray's.

The key to all is to use time, taps, and thermal cycles. Get it warm, hit it with PB, then tap lighlty a few times. let it cool, hit it again and some more taps, then go have a cold one. Repeat for a few days.

ANd remember, sometimes it breaks off anyways.

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RustyFarmall

12-28-2006 07:04:40




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to F100Panel, 12-27-2006 15:13:09  
I have used every brand of magic potion snake oil known to modern man EXCEPT for Kroil. I can guarantee that PB Blaster, Liquid Wrench, WD-40, etc. do not work any better than a home brew. I would like to try the Kroil, but I refuse to pay the price wanted for that stuff and then find out it doesn't work either. If anyone wants to convince me otherwise by sending me a free can, I will gladly put it to the test, and if it works, I will recommend it to everyone. E-mail is open

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RickL

12-29-2006 05:42:55




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-28-2006 07:04:40  
RustyFarmall; You send me a free new Milwaukee sawzall to try in my carpenter business (everbody thinks I need)and I will send you can of my Kroil. I always look at things this way if it works for you then fine,don't care what the brand or stories are. But for assembling machinery and repair business I have, its all I use. i like it simple as that,IF ITS BEST HAVE NO CLUE,alittle spray goes along ways. diesel fuel also works. HAPPY HOLIDAYS

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RustyFarmall

12-29-2006 08:34:49




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to RickL, 12-29-2006 05:42:55  
RickL, I have no doubts that the Kroil does work very well for assembling and repairing, but ATF also works quite well for those purposes, and is considerably less expensive. I have had folks recommend Kroil for freeing stuck engines. I am currently working on an engine that took in water, and was then abandoned for about 10 years or longer. I have used PB Blaster, Liquid Wrench, WD-40, diesel fuel combined with brake fluid, turpentine, ATF with diesel fuel, plus a few other concoctions. I have tried all of these over a three year period, and none of them has yielded any results. I just can't imagine that the Kroil is any different, except that it is more costly. If you can prove to me that the Kroil will free this stuck engine, I will give you my Makita sawzall. It may not be as good as a Milwaukee, but it darn sure gets the job done, and for less money.

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dan hill

12-29-2006 04:36:12




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-28-2006 07:04:40  
Go buy some.It works, good tools cost money.You can get a small spout can at gun shows.One fellow bought a revolver that was considered good for parts only.Previous owner used WD 40 to oil it, it was full of gummy reside.Spray some WD 40 on a cast iron saw table,see the gum it leaves behind.Penetrants take time to work.You cant just spray them on and start with a stilson wrench.



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RickL

12-28-2006 10:41:12




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-28-2006 07:04:40  
thats all I use, I like the silikroil type the best all I use. Have tried the others. some of them really stick thou. Not much different in price from what i have seen just bigger can,especially when it shipped to my door



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Gerald J.

12-28-2006 09:22:25




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-28-2006 07:04:40  
Actually if you go to Kanolabs website, they have a buy one, get one free for new buyers.

Gerald J.



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Nolan

12-28-2006 03:21:41




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to F100Panel, 12-27-2006 15:13:09  
It's ok. Nothing terribly remarkable these days.

Decades ago, when hardware stores carried Liquid Wrench and WD40, Kroil was fantastic. It was also virtually impossible to get hold of.

Today, with things like PB Blaster available at stores everywhere, Kroil has been eclipsed. It's the same penetrating oil it always was. Which is pretty good, but not in the league of PB Blaster and some of the other newer penetrating oils. And with the internet, it's far easier to get hold of Kroil if you'd like ot try it.

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Ozlander

12-27-2006 20:01:45




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to F100Panel, 12-27-2006 15:13:09  
I have brought AeroKroil at a gun show.

Ozlander



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Ludwig

12-28-2006 10:00:26




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to Ozlander, 12-27-2006 20:01:45  
SeaFoam has "Deep Creep" has anybody tried that?

I've used a gun oil the name of which escapes me at the moment that I've had excellent luck with. It comes in a little can and doesn't so much spray as ooze out.

I've also had good luck with NAPA "Penetrant" that came in a little can like 3in1 oil. I don't know if they still sell it, the last can I had was almost 15 years ago.



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JT

12-29-2006 14:31:05




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to Ludwig, 12-28-2006 10:00:26  
Yep, we use deep creep and one of my techs & I argue about what one is best, I have also found a product called mouses milk, that is EXPENSIVE and it works pretty good also, then there are times that NOTHING will work except the blue wrench. I have used WD40, PB Blaster, CRC, none really impress me, I have bought so much of this "it works good" stuff, I am not really what works and what don't. All take a lot of time to work and I am very impatient.

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F100Panel

12-28-2006 15:37:16




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to Ludwig, 12-28-2006 10:00:26  
Years ago there was LOTSA stuff that worked good. Trouble is a lot of it was helping kill us. Years ago ( 30+?) my favorite was a penetrating oil called "Tasgon". Can't find that anymore. Probably with good reason.....



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Gerald J.

12-27-2006 15:22:23




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to F100Panel, 12-27-2006 15:13:09  
www.kanolabs.com



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Bud in NC

12-27-2006 15:22:08




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 Re: KROIL.... in reply to F100Panel, 12-27-2006 15:13:09  
Try 'dis ->Link
I>Link save it for "special occasions!"



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