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Lou

12-26-2006 07:18:03




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I woke up Christmas morning to a cloged main sewer drain between my house and the street. I havent measured but I guess its about a 75 ft run. It seems to happen every 7 years or so, this time it cost me $541. which is about as much as you can get without a gun. Id like to have my own snake so I can clean it myself every couple of years. any ideas as to what I should buy.




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Lou

12-27-2006 08:47:24




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
Happy New year to all and thanks for the advice. I have to correct one thing I paid $451 not $541, I think the reason I posted that incorrectly is that Im still in a state of shock. Im going to look for the Rigid brand and check into copper sulfate. One add for Rootx that I found after reading your posts yesterday, claimed that rootx does not contain copper sulfate.



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vjd

12-26-2006 15:27:23




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
when you run the snake in just go in a small way then pull it back then run it in a little farther and pull it back past the first time you put it in to make sure that it is NOT going to get stuck on you



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msb

12-26-2006 14:34:58




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
I have unplugged drains several times using nothing more than a garden hose with the water turned full on and run through a clean out plug or beyond the trap, but that depends on what is causing the plug.Potato peels can cause real problems if your disposal doesn't chop them up finely enough.



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Stan in Oly, WA

12-26-2006 14:14:40




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
Hi Lou,

When I was the maintenance supervisor at an apartment complex, I had to rent a power drain snake several times a year to deal with clogs in the pool skimmer lines (a more substantial solution was called for but the management company I worked for wouldn't authorize it.) Then earlier this year I did some work on a friend's rental property which involved clearing a clogged drain from the laundry room to the sewer. This person had power snake from Harbor Freight which I used. I found the HF snake to be well designed, sufficiently well made, and easier to use than the US made equipment from the tool rental place. The rental equipment wasn't Rigid; it seems like the name was Drain Eel, or something like that.

The HF snake sells for less than $200 on sale (which is often.) US made would be several times that. I would have no hesitation about buying the Harbor Freight unit if I wanted to own that equipment, but storage is such a problem for me that my first choice would be to rent when necessary. The cost of 1/2 a day's rent is well under 20% of the $541 you recently paid, probably more like 10%. And you don't have to store it.

All the best, Stan

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2t2@ia

12-26-2006 13:17:19




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
The cost of the cleaning does seem high. We bought an old powered unit cheap at a school auction that works for us. We do not have that long a run though.



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Stumpalump

12-26-2006 09:21:00




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
If roots are not the problem you may be getting paper clogs. Scott tissue breaks up a lot easer than most of the thick brands. Throw a few sheets in the bowl and if they are not disolved in an hour change your paper. Also the new commodes use less water by law and if your drain was set up for the older commodes you may not have enough water to get the waste to the street.
Max out the water height in the commode tank and hold the handle down till all the water in the tank has been released. What a Christmas present you got.
I got a good laugh out of the hardware store one day. I was purchasing a plunger and the guy behind the counter said " How are you doing today." I said " I'm buying a plunger could it get worse?"

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Scot

12-26-2006 09:07:23




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
Rigid is the best brand for the money now.. home depot carries a pretty good unit... you might want to check out a foaming product you put in the line and leave overnight, it kills roots about a foot back from the entry point. you'll have to get it through a sewer man though.. Feed snake slow and back up often and you won't bind up like some folks do. Good luck



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NEsota

12-26-2006 08:58:17




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
Lou, My problem is similar to yours. If you let the sewer go a long time the roots get bigger and it is more difficult to cut and snake through them. I have seen the pros struggle to get drains open in my neighborhood and sometimes break the tile. We rent a unit and snake ours every 2-4 years. The more often you do it, the easier it is because of the number and size of the roots growing into the pipe.

Some people here have fixed the problem with a high dollar solution but cheaper than digging up street, sidewalk and disturbing landscape. Here is what was done. A long balloon, smaller than the sewer pipe, is pulled through the entire pipe and inflated with air. Then liquid is pumped into the area between the balloon and the pipe. This hardens into a material very much like PVC. In theory if there are not leaks, roots will not grow into the new pipe.

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Coloken

12-26-2006 08:46:51




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
If tree roots, buy a big unit or hire it done. The little home things just woun't hack it. 541 sounds way out. My usual was 75 to 125. Roots about once a year. FWIW, experience counts when running one.



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Bus Driver

12-26-2006 08:33:19




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
Did you notice that the rooter man did not bite his fingernails?



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ErnieDD

12-26-2006 08:24:23




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
Is there a tree between here and there? If so, consider tree roots. If no tree, and not clay tile ( which can collapse..., then try a blow out bag. It goes on the end of a garden hose and expands making a tight seal. You insert the BOB into the drain and it inflate a pulses water pressure at the clog.

The cheapo bent handle snakes don't work all that well.

I have rented power snakes up to the Rigid Industrial. It gets real interesting when you have 50 or 60 feet out and the snake gets caught. And you work 2-3 hours to get it back.

Yeah, it is a lot of money when the job goes right. Pretty cheap depending upon who digs.

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lucasss

12-26-2006 07:27:54




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 Re: Need to buy snake in reply to Lou, 12-26-2006 07:18:03  
they are at home centers and ebay. but i just rent one for 45.00 when i need it.lucas



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