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AWB

12-18-2006 15:06:27




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I am torquing down the cylinder head bolts and discover that two of the bolts do not have sufficient vertical clearance to get a socket on them. How do I get around this problem so the last two bolts can be torqued correctly? Thanks.




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Allan In NE

12-19-2006 05:50:09




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to AWB, 12-18-2006 15:06:27  
AW,

There is no law that says you have to use a torque wrench.

Get in there with a box end wrench, cinch 'em up good and tight, then get on with the day.

Allan



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Glenn F.

12-19-2006 09:29:18




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to Allan In NE, 12-19-2006 05:50:09  
Yes.



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mpuller2

12-18-2006 18:45:16




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to AWB, 12-18-2006 15:06:27  
Snap-on makes some torque adapter wrenches. Work excellent. We use them on some after market hemi heads.



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george md

12-18-2006 17:22:19




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to AWB, 12-18-2006 15:06:27  
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the wrench you need to add to your torque wrench

is called a cylinder head wrench .



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AWB

12-18-2006 16:39:54




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to AWB, 12-18-2006 15:06:27  
Thank you for your replies to my inquiry. They are greatly appreciated!



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Ron in Nebr

12-18-2006 16:11:07




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to AWB, 12-18-2006 15:06:27  
I've run into that before. There's two decent paths you can follow here assuming you can't get a socket on the bolts because the socket walls are too thick.

First, you could take a socket to the bench grinder and grind enough off so it'll fit. Leave this socket in your toolbox and only use it for tight-clearance applications with a hand wrench, not an impact. You won't break the socket just tourqeing by hand.

Second, there's specialty bolt companies that make head bolts etc that take smaller size sockets. Maybe if nothing else that'd give you the clearance you need. ARP is one name of a company that produces these fasteners.

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Ron in Nebr

12-18-2006 16:15:05




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to Ron in Nebr, 12-18-2006 16:11:07  
whoops...reread your post and saw you said verticle clearance.

Like the other post said, maybe a crowsfoot socket would work. There's also specialty tools made that'll offset a socket from the end of a torque wrench. Check the major tool manufacturers websites. There'll be a chart you can find somewhere that tells you what the torque value would be with whatever length offset you use.



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Tim B from MA

12-18-2006 15:21:44




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to AWB, 12-18-2006 15:06:27  
You can buy open end wrench heads that go on a rachet wrench - will also fit tourque wrench. Would extend the lever of the tourque wrench, and may throw off the measurement a bit, but my guess is it would be negligible.

If looked on the net for physics sites, you could probably work out the extra torque exerted by the slightly longer lever.



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AWB

12-18-2006 16:42:07




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to Tim B from MA, 12-18-2006 15:21:44  
Thank you for the reply to my inquiry.



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L.C.Grey

12-18-2006 16:39:24




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to Tim B from MA, 12-18-2006 15:21:44  
As a daily user of torque wrenches on critical operations with government inspection witnessing torque, I can tell you theres an easier way.

When using crowfoot or other offsets you can either do some fancy math to add the additional torque produced by the added leverage of the offset or simply do your torque with the crowfoot turned 90 degrees from the wrench. A crowfoot turnred 90 is so close to actual torque that its negligible.

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Tim B from MA

12-18-2006 20:09:46




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to L.C.Grey, 12-18-2006 16:39:24  
Good tip.

Thanks.



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Tim B from MA

12-18-2006 15:21:26




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 Re: Torque Wrenches in reply to AWB, 12-18-2006 15:06:27  
You can buy open end wrench heads that go on a rachet wrench - will also fit tourque wrench. Would extend the lever of the tourque wrench, and may throw off the measurement a bit, but my guess is it would be negligible.

If looked on the net for physics sites, you could probably work out the extra torque exerted by the slightly longer lever.



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