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Buying used power tools thru Ebay

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Pooh Bear

12-08-2006 20:08:34




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Would you buy a used power tool thru Ebay. Such as a drill, a saw, a belt sander, etc.

I'm looking at a drill. 1/3 the cost of retail. (even with shipping). Description says used but in excellent working condition. It's a brand name drill. Exactly what I want.

Otherwise I'm looking at getting a 3/8 TaskForce drill ($20) and a set of 1/16-1/2 inch drill bits. And a couple of other drill bits. 7/16 and 1/2 inch with 3/8 shanks to fit the drill.

So, should I be concerned buying a power tool thru Ebay?

Thanks.

Pooh Bear

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Rockyhawaii

12-10-2006 16:13:10




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
I don't like pawn shops because a LOT of the items are stolen. In my area a lot of the shops are owned by cops, or at least have partners that are cops. There is no way they can not know they are fencing stolen goods. I got into an argument over a chain saw one time, because MY name was engraved on it, and the pawn shop owner (cop)just told me to "prove it". I'd put every one of those shops out of business if I could.

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Stan in Oly, WA

12-10-2006 19:01:36




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Rockyhawaii, 12-10-2006 16:13:10  
Hi Rocky,

Which island do you live on? What town? I lived in Honolulu for a few years in the early 70's. I ran into a situation where the cops and the crooks were very obviously on the same team and I was on the opposing team, sort of. I think what it was was that the cops preferred local crooks to haole anybody. I didn't totally disagree. Later I got involved in a Life of the Land kind of outlook and eventually came to believe that the best thing mainland haoles could do for Hawaii was leave. So I left. I sure liked it there, though.

All the best, Stan

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Pooh Bear

12-09-2006 20:19:00




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
Well, I decided not to bid on the drill. Someone else already bid on it. I'm not willing to pay more than the starting price for it. My last drill cost $10 from Big Lots and lasted 5 years. It probably would have lasted longer if I had been the only one using it. But my brother abuses tools like these. So I figure the $20 TaskForce drill from Lowes will last me a long time. I plan on keeping it locked up where brother can't get it.

I have a TaskForce angle grinder and it works great. The drill should be better than the one I had before. I'll just get some reduced shank drill bits when I need them. I rarely need to drill anything over 3/8.

Thanks.

Pooh Bear

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1936

12-09-2006 15:09:26




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
A rule of thumb I use is don't buy any thing that plugs in unless I can operate it. Lots of reman tools sold. Have bought reman B & D tools from out let store with no problem.

The pawn thing has many truths. Good friend got three guys in jail for his stolen high dollar trolling motor sold on ebay by a pawn fence.



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Hal/WA

12-09-2006 14:12:57




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
It would be interesting to see how much of the stuff in pawn shops and for sale on the internet is actually stolen property. I have seen tools in a local pawn shop that are new, and in unopened boxes for sale at about 3/4 what I could find them somewhere else. These items show the marks as having been pawned, but never redeemed. I suspect that they have been shoplifted and then pawned by druggies. The pawn shop operators don't pay out much for such things, so they make a tremendous profit on them.

I have talked to pawn shop owners. They have told me that they know some of the items they receive might be stolen and because of that, they will loan very little on anything they suspect at all. They, in general, comply with the local law requiring that they report all pawns or buys to law enforcement and also get good identification of the person bringing in the merchandise. And sometimes stolen items are identified by the reports and are siezed by the law enforcement agency.

But relatively little is ever picked up. And the pawn shops continue to multiply, at least around Spokane, so they must be doing pretty well.

I have bought a few tools from pawn shops over the years, and felt that I got a good deal. I was able to check them before I bought them. But it bothered me to think that my buying the items might be part of the reason the druggies shoplift things from local stores. If there was no market for the items, maybe fewer would be stolen.

My wife has bought and sold a bunch of things on eBay, mostly sewing machines. She tries to deal only with people who have had prior transactions with good feedback and good reputations. Yet last year, she bought a sewing machine that did not have a serial number tag on it. It was not obvious that the tag had been removed--no scratches or machining, but the tag was gone. She had trouble getting the local dealer to work on that machine, since they believed it had been stolen at some time or other. They only tuned up the machine because my wife does a lot of business with them and they have known her for years. When my wife contacted the seller (who had a bunch of good feedback and had been selling on eBay for years), he admitted that he got the sewing machine from someone he didn't know very well. He ended up sending her back some of the money she paid for it and he said he would not sell items he doesn't personally know about their history. My wife ended up more or less giving that machine to a friend, who is aware that the serial number is missing, and it might possibly be stolen property. I should note that my wife and I looked all over the machine to see if there was anything else that might identify it, but there was nothing. The dealer also said the only thing that could be used for identification would be the adhesive paper tag.

Like so many things in this life, buying or selling on eBay is taking a chance. How good is the deal, and is it worth it to take the chance?

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RustyFarmall

12-09-2006 13:13:32




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
Make sure you know exactly what the shipping charges will be before you bid. I have looked at several power tools on ebay. All of them seemed to be reasonably priced until you add the shipping, and then you can buy the same tool brand new at a local store and get to look at it first. Plus, if you get it home and it doesn't work, you can go right back to the store where you bought it. If you bought it on ebay, it's yours.

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Ron in Nebr

12-09-2006 11:35:26




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
I've had good luck with the limited amount of things like that I've bought from ebay- a set of KETT sheetmetal shears and a 12v winch.

Main thing about buying on ebay, whether it's tools or anything, is to check the seller out. Be wary of someone with no or low feedback numbers, and especially of sellers with lots of negative feedback. You can click on the sellers name and read the feedback they've recieved from other people who've bought from them.

If the seller has lots of feedback and it's mostly all good(97% or so and above positive), I'd buy from them with confidence. People who sell a lot on ebay and have good feedback take alot of pride in that and they're not gonna risk getting negative feedback by unloading their non-working junk with an inaccurate description.

That's my experience anyway. Of course, nothing's 100% foolproof.

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Steve Gerot

12-09-2006 11:06:22




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
I forgot to add. when buying new stuff on ebay something to watch for is remanufactured things. They are usually things that were returned to the store/factory. The factory will then check/repair the items. They will sometimes sell huge lots of these refurbished items to some one who will put them on ebay. There is probably nothing wrong with these items but are not worth new retail. Most sellers will make it obvious what you are getting but a few will kind of hide it and some will even claim it a new piece.

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Steve Gerot

12-09-2006 10:54:32




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
If they have good feedback you are pretty safe. If in dought about the condition email the seller with specific questions. I was looking at other replies. The pawn shops around here are a rip off. I think it must be a local thing. Around here if you are selling they will look up used value then give 25% of that. When they are selling they will often ask over new retail for a used item.



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Steve Crum

12-09-2006 05:35:27




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
I've retooled my entire shop with Milwaukee power tools. The majority I've bought off ebay. Most of these tools came from sellers who are pawn shops. I haven't been disappointed yet. Any that don't run at 100% I just take apart and clean then relube and put in a $5 set of brushes and they're good as new. Just read the description carefully. Some of these tools look like heck but I don't buy tools to look at.

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VaTom

12-09-2006 04:50:19




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
I've bought hundreds of items from ebay sellers, expecting a pair of 60A circuit breakers today. Purchases include Milwaukee and Hilti drills. The Hilti was used, not beat up. I figured with their reputation of never wearing out, it was pretty safe. Milwaukee reputation isn't far behind. Brand's pretty much everything.

My biggest fear would be buying something hot, but in that respect it's not much different from buying locally.

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evielboweviel

12-09-2006 04:47:43




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
have had extremly good luck buying tools on ebay so far have been as described or better. Only bad experience was sellin a nailer on ebay. Lady thought that sending me money late friday she should have had the nailer clear across the USA by wed and then complained about how I packed the tool BUT said the tool was undamaged and worked good
Ron



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Stan in Oly, WA

12-08-2006 23:10:31




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
Hi PB,

I haven't bought any power tools of the kind you are talking about on eBay but I've bought a fair amount of welding equipment there. I've bought 4 small AC and 1 small AC/DC welder there (resold 2 and given 2 away) and they have been exactly as described.

I also bought 4 cutting torches on eBay. Two were brand new Smith torches with lifetime warranties. I paid about 1/3 the retail price for one, about 1/5 the retail price for the other. The other two cutting torches were used Victors. One of them doesn't have as good a metal to metal seal at the cutting tip as it should---you should be able to tighten it enough by hand but it takes a wrench. The other one I haven't cleaned up and tried yet but it looks fine. Both were quite cheap.

I bought a set of Victor regulators As Is. The seller said he didn't know the condition of them but one gauge was not functioning. I got that gauge working pretty easily but when I put them on a tank the output side wouldn't register. I already had several other sets so I put that set aside for something to play with someday when I'm bored. By coincidence I happened to talk to that seller about six months later and he asked me how the gauges had turned out. When I told him what had happened he said I should have sent them back to him. I told him I still expected to be able to fix them someday and I didn't consider it a problem. I thought his attitude was pretty generous considering that he had sold the equipment As Is (for very little money, I should add.)

Most sellers say they will refund your money if the item is not as described. Some even say they will refund the shipping costs. I'm sure that it doesn't always work out this way---but what does? You can give yourself a good amount of protection by only dealing with sellers who have sold a lot of goods on eBay and whose positive feedback runs 99.5% or higher. Use common sense. A seller who has pi$$ed off a couple of experienced eBay shoppers and has no good explanation for it seems to me to be a much greater risk than a seller who has received one negative feedback from someone whose own history shows only one or two eBay transactions and whose expectations may be unrealistically high.

Another source of protection is to sign up with and use Paypal with a credit card (NOT A DEBIT CARD!!!) Then if a situation arises where you think you've been taken, you may waste a little time in correspondence but the chances are you won't lose any money. People who say they would never use a credit card online because it's dangerous are partly right. The part they're not right about is to think it's safer to use a credit card anywhere else. Anyway, safe is overrated.

I don't think eBay is quite the wild and wooley market it used to be, and both the unbelievable deals and the hosings are more rare now. Paypal seems to be almost 100% reliable now (now that eBay owns it); only 2 or 3 years ago it had a reputation as one of the worst sites on the internet.

I can't argue the fact that you're better off getting to see and try tools before you buy them.
If you get good prices and all the selection you need at pawn shops, classified ads, and garage sales, you'd be crazy to shop anywhere else. But eBay is probably the largest market in the world and I don't think you should write it off without giving it a try.

All the best, Stan

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old

12-08-2006 21:05:40




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
Its your $$ but my self I wouldn't buy any thing like that used unless I can pick it up and plug it in. To many things that can be wrong with one and when you buy it that way you can't test it. My self I would start looking in pawn shops. I get a lot of good tools that way for a good price. I do have a leg up on you a friend owns a pawn shop in town and he is always checking with me as to what new.used tools I/we can use in the shop. Hes also my partner in the tractor thing so he keeps me busy with the tractors but also makes sure I have the tools to do so.

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Roy Suomi

12-08-2006 20:12:48




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 Re: Buying used power tools thru Ebay in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-08-2006 20:08:34  
Hey Pooh....I frequent my local pawn shops..Last month I bought a sweet Milwaukee Hole Shooter for $ 65.00..Put down my Trex deck boards before the cold started..



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