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PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT

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Joe in MN

11-27-2006 14:38:37




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OUR PROPERTY LAND TAX WENT UP OVER 20% IN OUR COUNTY, THAT'S ONE BIG JUMP FOR RETIRED FOLKS OR ANY ONE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING, IS THERE ANY PLACE I CAN LIVE IN THE COUNTRY WITH OUT BEING TAX OUT ????? ??




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Slowpoke

11-30-2006 01:53:52




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
Well, how about Santa Clara County, California? Max 1% tax levy, +county retirement levy .03880,
+county library retirement .00240, +school bonds .08890, +comunity college bonds .01200, = 1.14210. Then add State water project & Water District bond equaling .00720. (That's called the Land & Improvement Rate.[?])
Then we have "Special Assessments"... Clean Safe Creeks $45.26, CLSA Service Chg(?) $22.90, Vector Control $15.24, Mosquito District #2 $10.78, County Library (Parcel Tax) $50.48, Sewer Service $360, WD Flood Control $29.58, Open Space Districts $65.68. Total $605.92. Assessed Valuation 1-1-06, $69,622 x $1.14210/$100 =$795. Add $606 for the Spec Assessements + $5 for Land & Improvements you get $1406 taxes for 2006-2007 tax year. Next year it will be $71,014 or +2% each year. Plus whatever the voters want to add for more Special Assessments. Since Prop 13 limits increases to 2% and 1% all new taxation is trying to use parcel taxes and special districts as a way around it. If I sell the property the new owner will start at $1.14210/$100 of whatever he pays....plus the Special Assessments. And he'll probably pay between $600 & $700K. 55x105 lot, 1200Sq' house. Believe it or not!

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Hal/WA

11-28-2006 19:59:53




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
Don't get me going!!!! I was notified earlier in the year that my property valuation had gone up about 1/3. While it is too early to know just how much my taxes will go up, I suppose they will go up about 1/3 too. Almost $5K this year on a modest house and 20 acres that a man would starve to death trying to farm it.

I vote NO on anything that I think might raise my taxes, and I will vote for someone else for Assessor next time.

And they say there's no inflation!

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Charles (in GA)

11-29-2006 02:30:28




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Hal/WA, 11-28-2006 19:59:53  
>>I vote NO on anything that I think might raise my taxes,<<

Very good plan, so when ballot choices come up to give property tax breaks to certain non profits such as the Lions or Elks, or widows of slain police officers, do you vote for them thinking, "this is great, at least someone will get a property tax break" or do you reason it out and vote no on the basis that your state legislators voted for it to buy everyones vote with tax money (the local county's) that really wasn't the legislatures to give away, and that if someone else gets a break, you will have to make up the loss?

Charles

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Hal/WA

11-30-2006 16:43:19




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Charles (in GA), 11-29-2006 02:30:28  
We haven't voted on anything like that as long as I can remember. But in general, I vote no on anything that I think might raise my already much too high taxes. I also like to think that I am an informed voter....

The taxes are getting out of hand! What else can the average citizen do about them besides vote? And vote out politicians that raise taxes.



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Roy Suomi

11-28-2006 15:32:57




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
You can get in touch with your taxation department they sent out a questionare..I did this year and they at least knocked off $ 6,000.00 from my evaluation..I'm still gonna pay nearly $ 3,000.00 a year for a 2200 sq ft house on 1 acre with my 28 x 32 pole barn..I guess it's the cost of " owning " your own address..Most of the houses in my neighborhood are 3800 to 4000 sq ft..I've been contemplating a move , however , In the next county where land is fairly plentiful , it seems that taxes are even higher because they don't have the big tax base that our county has..

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nM eoJ

11-28-2006 13:18:42




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
Your governor pledged to not raise taxes. That pledge gave Mn rich people a huge tax break and forced local units of gov't to raise the only tax they can,the property tax. I posted as JoeMN until someone who disliked my postings hijacked my name. Tax income,especially that part beyond basic living needs. Then property taxes will be reasonable so everyone who wants to live in their own house can afford to.

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Jim West TN

11-28-2006 10:37:00




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
Tennessee
No Income tax, my property tax on 44.5 acres with 1700 sq ft home and out buildings is $273.00 a year. Voted in this year is tax rate at age 65 will freeze the tax rate. Sales tax is @9.5% varies with county. I kept every receipt in 2005 to deduct against federal, found that unless you have bought large ticket items like $20,000 auto you won't have enough tax to deduct against federal return. Some countys have a wheel tax along with vehicle tags, amount varies with the county. I register 2 vehicles with vanity plates, costs more and my county has a wheel tax, $98.00 for the 2 vehicles. Bottom line, with my taxes I'm happier than a pig in S**t.
Jim

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Charles (in GA)

11-27-2006 20:04:53




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
A friend of mine who lives in centeral WI, got annexed into the village because village fathers thought a big devolopment was going in next to my friend. The devolopment has fizzled, now my friend is in the village with none of their services. His taxes not only went up due to having village taxes added on top of county taxes, but the appraiser just about doubled his value.

He also has a 1/2 acre lot inland from Naples FL that his father bought in the '60's. The value on this vacant lot on a still vacant street in the still vacant section of Lehigh Acres is $50,000 this year, was $20,000 last year, was $8,000 before that, and $4,800 the year before, and was $2,000 for many years before that. The millage went up also, you can imagine what happened to the taxes. He asked me to look into it (I'm a tax assessor in GA) and I told him the only consolation was that the lots were actually selling for nearly this much, developers were buying them up left and right.

Charles

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NEsota

11-27-2006 19:31:40




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
In my Minneapolis neighborhood all lots are 120 feet deep and most are 50-60 ft. wide. Most owners would not know how to convert this footage to an acre measurement. My dwelling for real estate measurement purposes is about 1300 sq. ft. The basement is about half that but because it is unfinished does not count as living space. Taxes have increased almost every year for my 30 some years ownership and will be $5650 in 07. We have not made major improvements but the appreciation is several multiples of the total property tax. This is not all bad because the tax is deductible and if and when house is sold the appreciation may be tax free or nearly so. We feel safe here and feel there are many advantages living where we do. If the cold weather here helps keep out some of the riff-raff, the high taxes may also help, they are not all bad. No I am not now and never have been a bureaucrat.

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jack-ipwa

11-27-2006 19:30:58




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
same problem here.Instead of complaining to us contact your friends family neibhors etc and get a hold of your state reps and tell them to stop selling your house everyyear because of their runaway budgets,
Tax should be what we bought it for not what it is worth now. Untill sold then new value takes place.
But then they could not give the raises or benefits they do and all the other things they waste our money on.

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City Tax...John,PA

11-27-2006 17:29:56




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
The property tax on my place in Pensacola, FL is about $850.00 PER YEAR. I can understand this amount of tax because of the services. Last year's Homeowner's insurance on this property was $1200.00. I just received the new insurance bill for $4000.00 for the same basic coverage with no claim record. I am about ready to go "self-insured".

Here in the PA area, insurance coverage is about $265.00 per yr. However, the property tax is about $1,000.00 per yr.

Seems like, if the taxes don't get ya, the insurance companies will, sooner or later.

I was hopeing to sell my PA property next year and relocate to FL, but, now I am not sure if I can afford to.

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Stan in Oly, WA

11-27-2006 18:14:39




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to City Tax...John,PA, 11-27-2006 17:29:56  
Hi John,

Who is your Florida insurance company? You might not be able to keep them from knocking you down and stealing the money out of your wallet, but you don't have to protect their identity while they do it.

Remember when Ma Bell was one company and Lily Tomlin used to do that bit about them? "We're the phone company. We don't care, and we don't have to." Seems like most national businesses feel that way now.

All the best, Stan

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State Farm..John,PA

11-28-2006 11:31:46




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 11-27-2006 18:14:39  
State Farm has been the insurance company that has insured my residence in FL since I have been there for the past 8 yrs.

Since last year's hurricane cost the companies lots of $$$$, they have raised the rates out of sight.

I am hearing that quite a few neighbors have been priced out and have sold their homes and moved to ALABAMA and TENNESSEE.

I have searched a few "independent" agents in the Pensacola, FL area and they have all said the same thing. "Most companies are not writing new policies, and, those that have insurance should stay with the companies that they are with."

So, I will be makeing a decision in the near future to keep my PA property for sure.

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Stan in Oly, WA

11-28-2006 14:30:52




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to State Farm..John,PA, 11-28-2006 11:31:46  
Hi John,

I'm not too glad to find out that it's State Farm because that's who all my insurance is with. It's not even really homeowner's insurance any more---it's homeowner's catastrophic insurance. You don't dare file a claim on anything less than so much damage that you simply can't afford to pay for the repairs out of your own pocket. I wonder if the insurance companies keep track of any damage to your house they find out about and hold it against you even if you don't file a claim. That's the way they've always treated your auto insurance policy. Any damage to your car, even if it's parked on the street in the middle of the night and you're asleep in your bed, can suggest that you're a high risk policyholder and might influence your rates or even your renewability. What a world, huh?

All the best, Stan

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Sam#3

11-27-2006 16:46:17




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
My city property residence tax is $302 and my recently inherited eighty-acre farm is $239. Sure a big change from my previous ($2400) residence.
I'm FROM Taxus and couldn't be gladder.



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woodbutcher

11-28-2006 12:49:10




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Sam#3, 11-27-2006 16:46:17  
Hi Sam,
I live in NE Taxes, and my property taxes have doubled in the last 10 years. They went from $1,500 on 85 acres and 2400 square foot house to $3,000 on the same place less 2 acres.
Butch



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Sam#3

11-28-2006 14:04:49




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to woodbutcher, 11-28-2006 12:49:10  
Yep! I was in Round Rock same thing.



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dr.sportster

11-27-2006 15:56:37




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
NEW HAMPSHIRE



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Midwest redneck

11-27-2006 15:11:03




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
Prop. tax is outragous. I pay $5,100/yr. on a 2.5 acre parcel with a 2300sq/ft home. Michigan taxes are bad, I guess Mn taxes are bad too the midwest states are famous for high taxes. What do you pay per year, what is your house size and parcel size?



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Easy1

11-27-2006 18:39:08




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Midwest redneck, 11-27-2006 15:11:03  
I pay $1800 / yr. On a 2200 sq. ft house, 40x40 barn, 10.5 acres. But I have been in my house over 20 years. I would love to move, but the pop up in the taxes for a similar house is ugly. This is the result of proposal A. It worked for awhile, got old Smilin John Engler reelected, but I think it was bad policy. People warned about this when it was voted on, but not enough people listened. I have talked to several real estate people who think it is really hurting real estate sales. Lots of people who were in place around 1994 are now very reluctant to sell and move instate.

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Midwest redneck

11-28-2006 02:49:55




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Easy1, 11-27-2006 18:39:08  
Dont worry Jenny G will help us out. (yeah right) Real estate in Michigan is in sorry shape because of taxes and prop A. But If we the people hate the taxes cant we change that?



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Roger123

11-27-2006 18:12:25




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Midwest redneck, 11-27-2006 15:11:03  
Less than a 1/4 acre lot with a $250,000 crackerbox starter home.....and taxes are $6100/year. I thought Madison WI was a great place to live....I guess empty pockets = good place to live.



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Eddie in MI

11-27-2006 17:38:58




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Midwest redneck, 11-27-2006 15:11:03  
Same here in SE Michigan. I live in Washtenaw county and the taxes here are absolutely rediculous. You would think that my property was made out of solid gold. It's not. I checked.



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SuperA-Tx

11-27-2006 15:02:00




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to Joe in MN, 11-27-2006 14:38:37  
Feel lucky. At my store the property tax went up 200% on the building and 300% on the land. That was in addition to it going up 10% every year. They also added an inventory tax two years ago for the business.

Our Governor says that all Texans recieved a cut in property taxes this year but I have yet to find anyone that got a cut.

Every year the evaluation or the rate goes up.

You are paying for immigration!

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hay

11-27-2006 17:25:28




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to SuperA-Tx, 11-27-2006 15:02:00  
i'm in texas and my school and county tax rate did go DOWN....for the first time ever! BUT, the value of the property went up so i end up paying more. it is truly amazing how the tax hucksters can spin the finances so that they make me believe i'm getting a break when i'm actually paying more. welcome to the great state of TEXAS or is that state of TAXES?



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Rustyj14

11-27-2006 18:46:50




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 Re: PROPERTY TAX OUT OF SIGHT in reply to hay, 11-27-2006 17:25:28  
No, Texas ain't--Pennsylvania is! Before the state election, our erstwhile governor said he was going to lower taxes, but after he won the re-election, he sadly informed us, that-unbeknownst to him--everything went to heXX and he's going to have to raise taxes instead. Talking about a 12 cent a gallon gasoline tax raise, and new taxes for new highways and bridges, which incidentally have been falling apart at a frightening rate for the last 30 years! And, some of the new taxes will go for public transit, with union wages!Imagine--drive a city bus--make $90,000 a year, with overtime! And, the turnpike commission just announced it is going to build a fancy new bridge over the Susquehanna River, that will cost at least $200,000,000! Gas taxes going up?HMMM?

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