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Chicago Electric 10 KW belt drive generator head

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Gene Davis (GA)

11-24-2006 18:43:56




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Walking through Harbor Freight Store today looking around and they had new 10KW belt head for $399.00. That looks mighty cheap for a 1750 rpm unit that would produce that much current consistently. Must be a disposable unit. I would lie to up my 8KW dayton belt drive unit, but don't want any cheap junk that won't last under pressure. Opinions??




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Tim Casbolt

11-25-2006 18:55:54




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 Re: Chicago Electric 10 KW belt drive generator he in reply to Gene Davis (GA), 11-24-2006 18:43:56  
That 10KW at Harbor Freight is peak-rated. It provides 7.2KW continuous. In other words, your Dayton probably already out-performs the HF one. Do you have a tractor capable of running the 13KW pto generator offered by Harbor Freight, Northern Tool and others? That might be your best bet.



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Gene Davis (GA)

11-27-2006 10:11:00




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 Re: Chicago Electric 10 KW belt drive generator he in reply to Tim Casbolt, 11-25-2006 18:55:54  
I have found that most of the modern day generators below about 12-13 Kw will not put out more than my old heavy copperwound *Kw Dayton. I was just thinkig it would be nice to step up the power out put, but it is not that critical. With some careful management I can survive well with what I have. I certainly wouldn't go to the trouble of re-equipping with a lesser one. I really suspected that the price was too good to be of any dependable worth. Thanks for the info. I will just leave well enough alone for now.

My tractor is a 650 John Deere compact diesel(14hp)and wouldn't do a very good job with a 13Kw unit, so I'll just pass on this great,"puff of smoke idea". Gene

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Tim Casbolt

11-25-2006 05:31:29




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 Re: Chicago Electric 10 KW belt drive generator he in reply to Gene Davis (GA), 11-24-2006 18:43:56  
Never seen a 1750 version. I've used the Italian version of this: >Link
Nothing>Link wrong with it. They stopped offering the Italian one a couple years ago. I'd bet the Dayton is a better quality unit.



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Gene Davis (GA)

11-25-2006 18:07:11




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 Re: Chicago Electric 10 KW belt drive generator he in reply to Tim Casbolt, 11-25-2006 05:31:29  
I might have read the tag wrong, but thought it said 1750 rpm. Would have to gear it up or down with pulley size any way. I run the Dayton unit with a 2:1 overdrive ratio and that allows my 20 hp Onan to run at 1800 rpms and is much quiter, smoother and uses lots less fuel. The Dayton is a 3600 rpm, large copper wound unit from the 70's that has almost a flyuwheel effect with the heavy armature. It is a brush type unit that can hold the load all day or until the engine gives out. The interesting thing is that when overloaded the magnetic field in it collapses and the generator stops producing current rather than burn it out It cost around $750.00 in the 70's and has been very good, just is not quite large enough for the house since the last remodeling/addition job. The biggest complaint I have with it now,(I actually assembled it0 is that the Onan engine powering it is so doggone expensive to repair. Good tough dependable, but parts are outrageous.It is an electric start NH series Onan twin cylinder aircooled engine.

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Gene Davis (GA)

11-25-2006 18:06:01




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 Re: Chicago Electric 10 KW belt drive generator he in reply to Tim Casbolt, 11-25-2006 05:31:29  
I might have read the tag wrong, but thought it said 1750 rpm. Would have to gear it up or down with pulley size any way. I run the Dayton unit with a 2:1 overdrive ratio and that allows my 20 hp Onan to run at 1800 rpms and is much quiter, smoother and uses lots less fuel. The Dayton is a 3600 rpm, large copper wound unit from the 70's that has almost a flyuwheel effect with the heavy armature. It is a brush type unit that can hold the load all day or until the engine gives out. The interesting thing is that when overloaded the magnetic field in it collapses and the generator stops producing current rather than burn it out It cost around $750.00 in the 70's and has been very good, just is not quite large enough for the house since the last remodeling/addition job. The biggest complaint I have with it now,(I actually assembled it0 is that the Onan engine powering it is so doggone expensive to repair. Good tough dependable, but parts are outrageous.It is an electric start NH series Onan twin cylinder aircooled engine.

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Gene Davis (GA)

11-24-2006 19:52:36




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 Re: Chicago Electric 10 KW belt drive generator he in reply to Gene Davis (GA), 11-24-2006 18:43:56  
Identical looking unit in the Northern Tool Co. catalog is $699.00 big difference in price.



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