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Forney 6-c

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john908

11-15-2006 19:02:00




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Does anyone know about these machine"s?I saw one for $100 one the internet,they said it"s been in the basement for 30 year"s.Is this a dc machine?Think it"s worth $100?Said they have all the cables.




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railhead

11-18-2006 05:50:05




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 Re: Forney 6-c in reply to john908, 11-15-2006 19:02:00  
I have a Forney CB-60 that looks like the one you are looking at. It will be AC ONLY. I also owned a Forney FC-230 once, welded great also. They weld as good as any of my AC Lincolns. I think that if you are close enough to get that welder and save the shipping, it would be a great buy. I would bet anything it works. There is nothing in the machine to break unless it is dropped or ran over by something. No fan, no current switch as others have said. Best of luck.

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CBBC

11-16-2006 21:41:59




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 Re: Forney 6-c in reply to john908, 11-15-2006 19:02:00  
Hi John,

My dad has a 30 year old Forney AC that he, and eventually I learned to weld on ( I'm 35 now). I also have a Century AC /DC stick and a Millermatic 250 wire feed.

The old Forney has been sitting at the edge of the shop exposed to wet Vancouver weather for the past 30 years. I seldom use it for new construction, but when I need to fix something NOW, in the RAIN and WIND, it works every time. Once you figure it out it works well, not as smooth as the Cent on DC but good.

A neighbor has almost the identical Forney, but it may be older. This guy's welds look like mig. He can fix, rebuild or make almost anything on his potato farm.

The Forney is a good strong farm machine, the quality is in the operator.

Grant

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Stan in Oly, WA

11-16-2006 01:40:36




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 Re: Forney 6-c in reply to john908, 11-15-2006 19:02:00  
Hi John,

I think everything Dave said is right. Lincoln buzzbox welders also work with fixed taps even though the configurations of the two welders look quite different externally. The wires inside the Lincoln run to a heavy duty dial; changing the setting on the dial transfers the current from each wire (tap) to the electrode lead. On the Forney the wires inside run to individual outlets on the front of the welder; you change the setting by moving the plug of the electrode lead to the outlet which is marked with the amount of current you want to use. The Lincoln system is slightly easier to use while the Forney system is less complicated mechanically so there's less to go wrong with it.

Lincoln buzzbox welders were never manufactured with copper transformer windings while it's possible (though not likely) that the Forney might have been. I've never welded with a Forney welder so I can't tell you anything about how they weld compared to the Lincoln. A student artist I know got one a year ago but he has virtually no stick welding experience so he wouldn't be able to tell me anything meaningful about how it works.

Dave reminded you to remember that the welder you are considering is over 30 years old. Early this year I bought a Lincoln buzzbox on which someone had written the date August, 1967. It works beautifully even though it appeared not to have been well cared for. The only thing its age affected was that the rubber on the electrode and ground cables was so badly cracked that I had to replace them. That was a shame because someone had installed 50' 2/0 cables which would have been worth what I paid for the welder if they had been in useable condition.

I've owned or used a number of those inexpensive 220 volt AC stick welders---Craftsman, PowerKraft (Montgomery Ward), Chicago Electric, ESAB Bantam, Hobart, as well as several Lincolns. They can be quite picky about which electrodes they like, even to the extent of only working decently with a certain brand. Because of an unusual circumstance I have a huge variety of electrodes, but I imagine that most people might give up in frustration before buying and trying (especially buying) enough different electrodes to find the one or two that a particularly difficult machine would run okay with.

If you're an experienced operator and you know you're good, you can make a poorly performing machine work for you. If you're inexperienced you'd probably think it was you rather than the machine and maybe call the whole thing a bad deal. Am I making it sound like you shouldn't buy that welder? I don't mean to. I'd probably pay $100 for a Forney welder just to have one. But I'm a history buff, too.

All the best, Stan

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john908

11-19-2006 18:13:15




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 Re: Forney 6-c in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 11-16-2006 01:40:36  
Good thing you said something about the cables being cracked and rotten,I emailed the guy and he said yes,if you bend them they crack and fall apart.Very nice looking machine otherwise.



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135 Fan

11-15-2006 21:59:54




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 Re: Forney 6-c in reply to john908, 11-15-2006 19:02:00  
Any Forney machines I've ever seen were AC with different taps to put the cable ends in. As far as i know Forney's were common on farms. I don't think they ever made a DC welder. If it works, I guess it would be an OK machine for occasional use. Remember it is 30+ years old. Dave



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