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Need a propane water tank heater

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Tom in TN

11-13-2006 17:11:19




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Hey Guys,

I have three water tanks for my stock that are remote from my homesite. I'm trying to find a propane tank heater to keep the tanks thawed out this winter.

Anybody ever hear of one?

Thanks,

Tom in TN




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T_Bone

11-15-2006 02:38:52




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 Re: Need a propane water tank heater in reply to Tom in TN, 11-13-2006 17:11:19  
Hi Tom,

You can also use a heat pipe. At 8ft in the ground the temperature is stable year around at 50� in most of the USA.

The second law of thermal dymanics states:
"heat flows from a higher source to a colder source"

So install a "insulated" stand pipe (pipe#1) in one end of your tank down thru the frost line for your area in to a larger diameter horizontal pipe at 8ft then return to into another vertical stand pipe (pipe#2) back into the tank above the desired water line.

Water will be drawn from pipe#1 to the under ground horizontal heat pipe thus heating the water to around 45�. The heated water expands and flows back into the stock tank thru pipe#2 as stated by the 2nd law of thermal dymanics.

You will want your supply and return pipes in the center of your tank surrounded by water as the water will be a insulator at that point.

If you look on the net there is a system drawing that uses simular engineering of a hill side water tank. It works close to what I described without any explantion.


There is also another way but you run the risk of having too much hot of water. At one end of the tank install a clear plexy-glass cover sealed to the top of the tank with a veritcal piece towards the bottom of the tank to seperate the hot and cold sides.

The sun will solar heat the enclosed tank end and the cold tank water will move in and out of the solar collector trying to equalize temperature.

You could use Butyl caulk for a gasket sealer and glue to hold the solar glass on. Butyl caulk is some very tuff sealant. If your in snow country then you would want to 45� the collector glazing to the tank horizontal to keep it clean.

T_Bone

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R.J.

11-14-2006 17:52:14




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 Re: Need a propane water tank heater in reply to Tom in TN, 11-13-2006 17:11:19  
I use those miro-fount auto waters no electric, no water by pass works great. Cattle just push a float ball out of way to drink.

R.J.



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R.J.

11-14-2006 17:34:46




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 Re: Need a propane water tank heater in reply to Tom in TN, 11-13-2006 17:11:19  
I use those miro-fount auto waters no electric, no water by pass works great. Cattle just push a float ball out of way to drink.

R.J.



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kyhayman

11-13-2006 19:29:45




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 Re: Need a propane water tank heater in reply to Tom in TN, 11-13-2006 17:11:19  
I got mine out of NASCO's catalog about 3 yrs ago. Not cheap but works great.



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Tom in TN

11-13-2006 20:31:20




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 Re: Need a propane water tank heater in reply to kyhayman, 11-13-2006 19:29:45  
kyhayman,

Thanks for the response. I'm going to try to locate NASCO on-line and see if they list one there.

Tom in TN



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Allan In NE

11-14-2006 04:02:59




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 Re: Need a propane water tank heater in reply to Tom in TN, 11-13-2006 20:31:20  
Tom,

The latest trend out here is to use the new "bleeders" because cattle are often strung out over great distances and it is difficult to "tend" to 'em every day with an axe for breaking ice.

No energy use at all. Just a tiny "bleeder" valve and small hose hooked up to and upstream of the shutoff float/valve. Kind of like leaving a faucet dripping in a trailer house.

A small amount of flow is directed by a little hose to "spray" around the float area, which keeps it ice free. The cattle do the rest.

Works out here in some very nasty winters and doesn't cost to run.

Allan

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kyhayman

11-14-2006 04:29:16




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 Re: Need a propane water tank heater in reply to Allan In NE, 11-14-2006 04:02:59  
Hey Allan

I've wondered about those and how much water it would take. I know it sounds strange, but here where we get water, a lot of us buy water ( a shade over $100 per 100,000 is what my water bill has been running) . I'm wondering if the water that leaks past would be cheaper than the propane?



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Allan In NE

11-13-2006 17:28:52




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 Re: Need a propane water tank heater in reply to Tom in TN, 11-13-2006 17:11:19  
Yes Sir,

Got one out in the barn. Want me to get some pictures of it tomorrow?

Allan



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Tom in TN

11-13-2006 20:29:54




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 Re: Need a propane water tank heater in reply to Allan In NE, 11-13-2006 17:28:52  
Allan,

Thank you very much. That would be very helpful. Neither my Co-Op nor the guys at TSC have ever heard of such a thing, but I thought it surely must exist.

I'm also going to look at NASCO as kyhayman suggested.

Thanks again.

Tom in TN



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