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OT ground cover for wet area

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Chris Jones

11-12-2006 11:42:59




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I know this is off topic but I thought someone might be able to help. The back of my yard is often and currently very wet. Is there anything I can plant on it that will grow now? Rye, rye grass, turnips I don't care. Something to hold the dirt and grow at least till summer. My fescue will not even sprout sitting in water. I'm in the piedmont of NC. Water is sitting on top the ground and it's a hilside! I don't have the time, inclination or money to install drainage pipe to keep it dry. I just want something to grow that doesn't mind mud.

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Ford Man

11-14-2006 19:48:11




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Chris Jones, 11-12-2006 11:42:59  
Chris,
Where are you located ?

I am in Randolph County. Red clay and white flints !

Ford Man



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Chris Jones

11-14-2006 20:25:35




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Ford Man, 11-14-2006 19:48:11  
Guilford. With more rain forcast for Thursday I think I"m just going to have to get used to mud.



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Ford Man

11-15-2006 12:01:19




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Chris Jones, 11-14-2006 20:25:35  
Looks like we may have thunderstorms tonight.

I was going to finish grading my yard (all bare dirt now)last week but it hadn"t dried out. Now I will have to wait at least another week so I don"t sink in the mud !

Ford Man



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johnlobb

11-13-2006 03:31:54




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Chris Jones, 11-12-2006 11:42:59  
Make sure if you plant a willow, plant a male, the females are much more messy dropping the little fuzzies everywhere.



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sd pete

11-13-2006 00:31:07




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Chris Jones, 11-12-2006 11:42:59  
Canary grass



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Jimmy King

11-12-2006 23:39:36




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Chris Jones, 11-12-2006 11:42:59  
This may not be spelled right, but Birdsfoot Trefal



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Don-Wi

11-12-2006 20:52:24




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Chris Jones, 11-12-2006 11:42:59  
Most clovers are pretty tolerant of lots of moisture too, but not standing water for very long.

I like the other guys suggestion of a weeping willow tree. We've got 2 of them in our yard, and 1 of them my mom planted when she was a kid by putting a fresh stick in the ground (yes, it really does work).... Now the thing is a good 2 ft. in diameter, and unless we trim it every year it's always sweeping the ground, including the farm driveway. In a ditch we had dug behind the barn a bunch of swamp willows came in naturally over the last couple years. Kinda like 'em too. Very tolerant of water...

Donovan from Wisconsin

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James in North Carolina

11-12-2006 17:26:56




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Chris Jones, 11-12-2006 11:42:59  
Chris, After a paving job by the state ruined part of my front yard, the paving company reseeded the area. They didn't use just one type of seed but a mix of several types. It took hold and has done pretty good. unfortunately, nobody at the dept of transportation can tell me what the mix is(suprise). I'm in the sandhills, Southern Pines area and my soil has a lot of sand in it.
James



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Chris Jones

11-12-2006 18:31:07




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to James in North Carolina, 11-12-2006 17:26:56  
Yea, I know what you mean. I have have tried to find out what they plant too. No luck. Maybe someone here will be able to tell us.



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Cliff (VA)

11-12-2006 13:59:17




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Chris Jones, 11-12-2006 11:42:59  
You might try planting a weeping willow tree. Willows like it wet and suck a tremendous amount of water out of the soil. You would be surprised how much it would dry out your hillside.

Cliff (VA)

PS The leaves are real small and hard to rake. Don"t plant it somewhere where you will care that they are on the ground.



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

11-12-2006 19:08:24




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Cliff (VA), 11-12-2006 13:59:17  
I heard some tree experts talking about drawing the water table down for a lawn and one made exactly the same suggestion. Apparently a weeping willow or soft maple will transpire away a couple of inches of ground water, no problem.



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Gerald J.

11-12-2006 12:29:20




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Chris Jones, 11-12-2006 11:42:59  
Drainage is most conventional.

Otherwise look for a prairie grass that likes wet feet. Big bluestem is one but it grows tall. I had decent results in wet ground that drowned out corn and alfalfa with Climax Timothy.

Big bluestem likes being frozen before it sprouts, you can do that before planting by soaking the seed and then freezing in thee freezer for a few weeks. May have to hand seed it after that but it only needs enough cover to hide it from birds.

Gerald J.

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D13

11-16-2006 20:02:21




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 Re: OT ground cover for wet area in reply to Gerald J., 11-12-2006 12:29:20  
Willows and cottonwoods take in tremendous amounts of water. The penalty is that they break nicely during ice storms and high winds once they get about 20 years old. Trashy trees and lousy firewood. But fast growing and pretty.

Birdsfoot trefoil can be hard to get started but will withstand wet feet better than alfalfa or most clovers.

The highway mix here in Michigan has a blend of fescue, perenial rye, and some annual rye along with time-release nitrogen to make it green up. Crown and hairy vetch for hillsides (hairy grows quick but not real hardy here. Crown is opposite). Also seen people use winter wheat as a nurse crop (plant in spring, mow all sumer, frost will kill it).

Reed canary grass will make a mat that a cow can walk on in 3-4 years. Unfortunatley itlikes to plug ditches on the way by. But keep it mowed and the cattle will eat it, or let it go and the widfowl will move in.

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