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Chinese 43 cc chainsaw?

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Rod in Smiths F

11-08-2006 18:57:26




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The 25:1 oil ratio suggests it's a bit primitive, but the rest of the machine looks like any other chainsaw.

Anybody know anything about them, such as which saw they copied?

I bought a 5.5 hp motor and installed it on my snowblower. Seems like a faithful copy of a Honda 5.5 at 1/3 the cost.




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Rockyhawaii

11-09-2006 18:14:16




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 Re: Chinese 43 cc chainsaw? in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-08-2006 18:57:26  
The electrics on the Chinese equipment are lousy, and replacement parts are just aboutimpossible to buy. I've been trying to buy ATV parts for months now with no luck. The parts people just dry up and stop answering the phone.
It seems like the Chinese don't want parts to be identifiable, much less available, they just want to sell another machine to you.



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JT

11-09-2006 08:14:14




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 Re: Chinese 43 cc chainsaw? in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-08-2006 18:57:26  
Wait till you need parts for them. We are service center for McCulloch, they are marketing chinese generators and such, it took 4 months to get technical information to diagnose the generator not working. After getting some info, this machine is the same style generator that was being sold and used 20 years ago by the cheapo american generator companies. Before you bought this, did you check as to where to get parts and service. On the Honda look alikes, our Honda distributor told us that some of the Honda parts will appear to work, but the fit is not the best and can cause premature engine failure, that I do not know, but that is what Honda says, so on that one, you can take that the same way I did. questionable. As for the rest of the Chinese stuff, from what I have seen of the quality of it, it is still the cheapo chinese product that has been imported into this country for years, the quality is very questionable, let us be realistic on this, do you really think you are going to buy somnething at 1/3 the price and it be as good as the one you did not buy becasue it was "too high"?. Personally I would just as soon see the American people buy American products or at least from a country that is not trying to destroy our economy.

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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

11-10-2006 16:13:07




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 Re: Chinese 43 cc chainsaw? in reply to JT, 11-09-2006 08:14:14  
Why buy this saw? It's partly curiosity and partly frustration.

When I lost an imported set of bolt cutters and tried to replace them at the local Home Depot, they wanted three times the price for basically the same product. I refused and went to Princess Auto for a replacement. It works fine.

My pneumatic nailers: flooring, framing, palm, finishing and stapler, all are Chinese made. The overall level of quality is pretty good. My $35.00 reciprocating saw has seen me through a major house renovation. I've had it apart a few times, but it is still going after three years of use. The $85. router works at least as well as the $250 brand name item I bought to fit my dovetailing jig.

I'm curious to see if they can make a chainsaw which will work. I have a couple of other saws on their last legs because of obsolescence in one case and a lousy dealer attitude in another. The local sports shop will sell the saws, but they give me the impression that, unless you want to spend 20K on a boat or motorcycle, they would prefer not to be bothered.

JT advocates buying American. From my perspective in Canada it is much easier to buy Chinese: no oppressive brokerage fees at the border as the products are shipped from B.C., and no vendors who will only ship to the lower 48.

Pricing is quirky, but interesting. Ebay seems to sell Chinese imports for about 65% of what the local stores get for them, i.e: a 2" gas-powered trash pump sells at the local store for $300. A buy-it-now in B.C. sells it for a total of $200, including handling, shipping and insurance.

I paid over $300. at the local store for my Chinese compressor, then found the same one on eBay for about $75. plus shipping. It's a good product and worth the money I paid, but I'm not sure I got additional value for the markup.

So the saw is an experiment and a protest against retailers who feel entitled to high markups.

I'll let you know how it turns out.

Rod
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135 Fan

11-09-2006 12:58:43




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 Re: Chinese 43 cc chainsaw? in reply to JT, 11-09-2006 08:14:14  
I had someone at princess auto, who sell both engines, tell me that the chinese engines need to have their oil changed more often and are about a 1500 hour engine at best. The Honda engines will go for 3000 to 5000 hours with regular maintenance. I have a Subaru Robin engine on my generator that I've heard have gone 7000 hours with meticulous maintenance. Robin are the number one engine in Japan. They are cheaper than Honda and at least as good. You get what you pay for. If it's not something you use a lot, maybe you don't need to spend more money. Dave

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Midwest redneck

11-09-2006 02:45:10




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 Re: Chinese 43 cc chainsaw? in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-08-2006 18:57:26  
I will have to say that when operating a chainsaw and all the hazards with it, wouldnt you rather have a safe, durable, well operating piece of equipment instead of chink made saw? I will take my Stihl over any other saw hands down. The money should not be an issue when it comes to chainsaws. (buy the best, Husky, Stihl, Oregon, Jonserd)



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Davis In SC

11-09-2006 06:22:07




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 Re: Chinese 43 cc chainsaw? in reply to Midwest redneck, 11-09-2006 02:45:10  
Good point, MWRN... I deal with Chinese molds on a daily basis. I can assure, most products from China are made to sell, just good enough to get by, so they can get paid. I would not want to trust my safety to a Chinese saw, it would be likely to break apart, at full power, with bad consequences...



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Roy in UK

11-09-2006 01:06:55




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 Re: Chinese 43 cc chainsaw? in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-08-2006 18:57:26  
Actually some stuff that is coming out of China is really good ( Japan should be getting very worried! )but just for safety"s sake I wonder if something like an Oregon chain would fit it? They might be OK but I know they have been importing some Chinese off-road bikes into the UK and they have had problems with them snapping in half or across the front forks.



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Kip2

11-08-2006 19:39:39




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 Re: Chinese 43 cc chainsaw? in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-08-2006 18:57:26  
I don't know about the saw but I bought one of the 5.5 Honda knockoffs last year for my wood spilter its not failed to crank on second pull as of yet. Since I bought it I have found out that Honda parts will work on it not that I have needed any yet but I don't think the Honda guys would like to see it in there shop. But it is far ahead of a Briggs. Years ago a Briggs was the best small engine... But I would not buy one now no way I don't know what happen to there Quality

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JT

11-09-2006 08:21:55




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 Re: Chinese 43 cc chainsaw? in reply to Kip2, 11-08-2006 19:39:39  
you bought a cheap chinese engine and you question the quality of the American made engines???? A Briggs Intek or Vangard will out last any Chinese engine hands down or any other chinese product. American made products keeps American people working!!!!!



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jdemaris

11-10-2006 15:00:54




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 Many Vanguards are not US built in reply to JT, 11-09-2006 08:21:55  
In my opinion - that is not true. First of all, many Briggs & Stratton Vanguard and Intek engines are made overseas and many parts probably come from China. Some of the Briggs plants are at: Vanguard Single Cylinder Engines Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Alliance Nagoya, Japan

Vanguard Twin Cylinder Engines Daihatsu Briggs & Stratton Joint Venture Ryuo-cho, Japan

Vanguard 3 Cylinder Engines Briggs & Stratton Daihatsu LLC Ryuo-cho, Japan.

Second - I was - besides other things - a small engine mechanic during the 1960s. I went to many service schools for Briggs, Tecumseh-Lauson, Clinton, Wisconsin, etc. and was kind of disappointed to find out the engines that these companies made for European use were MUCH better quality than the stuff made for the US market. Why?? Because we are a throw-away society. It was not until Honda, Kawasaki, and Yanmar began to make small engines for the US market - that companies like Briggs had to offer better quality in the US. That's where the Briggs IC engine got it's start. Wisconsin, at the outset, made a deal with Subaru and began selling their Wisconsin Robin line of Japanese engines. In regard to any American product outlasting a Chinese product - that's silly. First - you have to find a product that you know for sure IS pure American - good luck on that. At the moment - Honda and Toyota cars sold here have more US content than Fords. And - there are many Chinese engines that hold up very well. Problem is, our market is also flooded with their poorly designed crap - and it's kind of hard to figure out what is good and what is not.

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mph

11-08-2006 23:06:11




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 Re: Chinese 43 cc chainsaw? in reply to Kip2, 11-08-2006 19:39:39  
Kip2, I don't agree with you on the Briggs, I always seemed to have start prob. with the older one's. [they never will wear out if they don't start]. But I do have a newer Briggs on a Troy Built tiller,3yrs. on it now And always starts on the 2 pull.This mach. gets used hard,have rocky ground. The only thing I do is change the oil once a year and put gas in it. Takes a licking and still a kicking.

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Dachshund

11-08-2006 19:30:53




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 Re: Chinese 43 cc chainsaw? in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-08-2006 18:57:26  
What brand name are you talking about?



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