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Farmer Ryan fro

10-19-2006 15:01:24




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I got a 3hp air compressor. Anyway the motor is talking a crap. I got a lot of electric motors but the biggest one I got is 1 1/2 hp. Would it be a ok to use the 1 1/2 motor? Compressor is not used for heavy work.

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MarkB_MI

10-20-2006 18:15:35




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Farmer Ryan from WI, 10-19-2006 15:01:24  
Motors are not necessarily interchangeable. First, a compressor needs a motor with a lot of starting torque. You need a capacitor-start or capacitor-start/capacitor-run motor. A split-phase motor will not cut it.

You also need to check the rpms on the two motors and make allowances for any required adjustment to the speed reduction.

In theory, if you have a replacement motor that has half the horsepower but the same rpm as the original, you can interchange it by using a smaller pulley on the motor. However, those pulleys are usually pretty small to begin with, and it probably isn't practical to install a larger pulley on the compressor.

My recommendation is to repair the original motor, or replace it with an equivalent one.

One last thought: Air compressor manufacturers are notorious for exaggerated horsepower ratings. A 3 hp motor at full rated load is going to need around 27 amps on 120 volts, or 13 amps on 240V. If this is a 120 volt compressor, I can guarantee you that it is not a true 3 horsepower compressor. Probably more like a horse and a half.

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larry in tn

10-20-2006 06:04:42




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Farmer Ryan from WI, 10-19-2006 15:01:24  
Unless you use the compressor a lot you most likely wont notice much difference. Theres also the chance that what you have as a replacement is more motor than the bad one. Recently built compressor motors are grossly over rated HP wise. Also be sure to check the rpm of each motor. Believe it or not I've goofed in the RPM thing and not caught it until I powered up.

Also you didn't detail your motor problem too much. Does it run at all? Does it smoke? Could be a simple matter to fix.

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Pooh Bear

10-19-2006 23:13:19




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Farmer Ryan from WI, 10-19-2006 15:01:24  
And to add to what has already been said,
if you use the smaller motor with a smaller pulley,
the SCFM delivery will be less.
Not a problem for light use.

Pooh Bear



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KEB

10-19-2006 18:37:37




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Farmer Ryan from WI, 10-19-2006 15:01:24  
Hi, what's the motor doing? Unless its been seriously overheated or has an obvious bad bearing, its probably got a bad start or run capacitor. They're readily available at any electric motor place or on the web for around $10. The motor shop should be able to test it for you if you don't have a way to do it yourself. I picked up a nice compressor for cheap not too long ago because a repair shop had told the guy it needed a new motor. Was going to try to swap motors, but as it turned out all that was wrong was a bad running capacitor - cost $9 and a trip to the motor repair place at lunch to fix it.

You can use a smaller horsepower motor, but as noted you also have to use a smaller pulley to give it a little more mechanical advantage in turning over the compressor. It'll take a little longer to fill the tank because the smaller motor can't turn the compressor as fast.

Check the motor speed and direction of rotation...the compressor motors I've tinkered with turn in the opposite direction of the typical small electric motor. Some motors you can change direction, some you can't, should be instructions on the motor tag if you can. Suspect the compressor itself would work in either direction, but the cooling fan incorporated into the compressor pulley would blow in the wrong direction.

Keith

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evielboweviel

10-19-2006 16:30:31




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Farmer Ryan from WI, 10-19-2006 15:01:24  
you need to use a smaller pulley on the motor to compensate for less horsepower
Ron



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