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fixerupper

10-18-2006 19:39:42

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Do any of you electricians out there know of a good crimper that will compress uninsulated 14-16 ga. and 10-12 ga. butt connectors without smashing them flat? All of the cheapie crimpers I have do an ugly looking job that sometimes doesn't grip the wire very well. I'd like to find one that will compress the connector real tight and keep it round. Money doesn't matter this time. Thanks, Jim

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dr.sportster

10-20-2006 15:22:54

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

Hi.I saw this post before but didnt know what brand I had it is a MOLEX from kmart about twenty years old.It keeps the crimp in a nice shape because the male and female die part is better shaped than most.These were cheap and might have come with a bunch of connectors.The cutter is dull but the crimper still does the job.The dont crush hard in one spot but shape to an even square shape.I have used ratcheting T&B and Greenlee[Taiwan beleive it or not]only because they were required by the power company I was terminating cables for they are nice but crimp very hard and are way to expensive for hobby usage.So if you see an old pair of Molex get them they are the best for cars,bikes tractors etc.[Of course if your at a yard sale and they are selling a pair of T&B somebody stole from work for five bucks...]

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fixerupper

10-19-2006 21:26:58

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

Wow! A lot of good ideas. I'm spending a lot of time in the cornfields right now, like every other Iowa farmer, but when I have the time to go shopping I will know what to look for. Seems like I am doing a lot of wiring on semi trailers now, like replacing the pigtail to the marker lights and that kind of stuff. Some of the wires are corroded black so solder doesn't stick to them. Acid cleans them up so they can be soldered but I kever know if I have all of the acid cleaned off when the job is done, so I've gone to using uninsulated crimps covered with a high quality heat shrink. Thanks for the help. Jim

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Jim K

10-19-2006 19:46:12

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

Personaly I like the one that Ideal makes. It's a ratchet type, and when you need to crimp something other than sta-cons like cable TV cable or Phone plugs, you just swap out the dies, only need to carry one crimp tool and just pickup the dies as you need them. any good electrical supply house should have them.
Check them out at Idealtools.com

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Red Dave

10-19-2006 16:52:12

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

Thomas and Betts are the best I have ever used. I have several different ones for different sizes, but they all make good, tight crimps.

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tech4

10-19-2006 15:09:31

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

I always liked the Sta-kon pliers.

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Buzzman72

10-19-2006 09:49:27

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

Not sure how available they are outside the automotive business, but back about 12 years ago--the date of the catalog I have--Premier Autoware was marketing heat-shrink, self-soldering terminals. There was no need to crimp, as these terminals soldered themselves when heated enough to activate the heat-shrink insulation. The 22-24 ga. butt terminals were part # 68773; 22-18 ga were # 67120; 16-14 ga. were # 67127; and 12-10 ga. were # 67130.

Besides butt terminals, they were also available in spade, ring, and spade flange terminals as well. I've used a few of them, and I liked them...but I haven't seen them available anywhere besides auto dealerships.

With them, no crimpers are necessary.

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Stumpalump

10-19-2006 08:56:36

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

If you get out of the tool coral at Home Depot and go back to electrical you will find the Klien tools. I love the scewdrivers Klien makes. Sombody needs to set up a store with nothing but the good stuff. If it were next to Harbor Freight I think they would both benifit.

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fepo69

10-19-2006 08:01:16

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

I use the bottom side of the electrical pliers like Ideal brand, cant beat that crimp, they have a special crimping slot not just the flat part.

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John T

10-19-2006 06:31:42

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

Im NOT an electrician but as far as electrical tools Ive seen, it looks like you cant go wrong with Klein.

John T

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IH2444

10-19-2006 06:25:54

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

After my TB crimpers walked off I went to Home Depot and got a pair of Gardner Bender ? Crimpers, they are pretty good, not as good as the TB ones but ok.

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larry in tn

10-19-2006 04:49:11

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

The Burndy tool mention in another reply is the best. It is expensive but worth every penny. BTW you can get a insulating cap for the Burndy connectors. I have a couple of hundred in my tool box. They snap on the connectors with ease but you have to cut them off.

www.oldduggy.com

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farmall_a_guy

10-18-2006 23:07:15

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

the crimper with the orange and black handle are klein tools they are great too

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oldfarmtractor

10-18-2006 21:38:19

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

I needed to crimp a wire for an electric dryer. I picked my crimper up at Menards and of course I "Saved Big Money". It did a great job and will be used often in the future.

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Ol Chief

10-18-2006 21:13:50

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

T&B short for Thomas & Betts are possibly the premier manufacturer of the subject connectors.They also mfg. an excellent crimping tool sold in electrical supply houses.

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Keith-OR

10-18-2006 20:24:39

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

fixerupper, I bought a great crimper from our local electrical supply store,Red and black handle, which crimps lengthwise on the connector. Can't remember the name of crimpers, and they are out in the shop cost was $20.00. I also have a set of ratcheting crimpers (BURNDY, catalog #MR8-4 made in Norwalk, Connect) that are used strickly for uninsulated connectors.

Will check on name of ones in shop tomorrow. But just check with your local electrical supply.

Keith & Shawn

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Gerald J.

10-18-2006 20:08:16

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Re: wire crimper in reply to fixerupper, 10-18-2006 19:39:42

Look for a ratchet crimper. I found one last summer at Gateway Electronics at St. Louis. Eclipse Lunar Series Crimper, model 300-002, I paid $29.99. www.eclipsetools.com

It works nicely and the crimps seem solid.

Gerald J.

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