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bil b va

10-06-2006 06:58:14




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i need an accurate method to measure the tempature of the line leaving my indoor unit so i can adjust the R 22 charge using the superheat method of charging . all the thermometers i can find cost too much for occasional home use . would appreciate any experience and knowledge you may have . thanks bill




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BillyinStoughton

10-09-2006 12:51:51




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 Re: HVAC superheat testing in reply to bil b va , 10-06-2006 06:58:14  
R Bedell has you going in the right direction. Total system superheat is what you should be concerning yourself with. That number will tell you what the state of the refigerant is coming back to the compressor.

You actually don't need the indoor wet bulb reading to figure superheat. You just need to know the saturation temperature of the refrigerant on the suction side of the system (after the fixed orifice). When the guages are hooked to the system and the unit running in the cooling mode, take the pressure reading off of your low side (blue) gauge. Take a temperature pressure chart and convert that pressure to temperature. Now measure the large line (suction) at the outdoor (condensing) unit. Subtract that temperature reading you got off your temperature pressure chart from the reading you got on the suction line. This is your superheat.

One other thing to note is that on a fixed orifice system, superheat fluctuates with indoor temperature, outdoor temperature, and cooling load. There should be a performance table inside your condensing unit that will tell you exactly what your superheat reading should be given your conditions.

As far as what you should do for a good temperature reading...to get by cheap but still get a quality reading, I would get a probe type thermometer and tape it directly to the suction line with electrical tape. A few good laps with the tape also creates a small insulation factor to get you a good reading.

Sorry this is a bit long, but just wanted to get you going in the right direction.

Billy

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buddy va

10-06-2006 16:51:40




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 Re: HVAC superheat testing in reply to bil b va , 10-06-2006 06:58:14  
what part of va are you in ihave all the tools



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R Bedell

10-06-2006 08:24:08




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 Re: HVAC superheat testing in reply to bil b va , 10-06-2006 06:58:14  
In order to measure and adjust superheat accurately, you have to have s set of Manifold Gauges and a Thermometer. There are two types of superheat. Evaporator superheat and total system superheat. The values are different. To add more confusion, the superheat values are different depending upon if the system is Capillary Tube fed, or Thermostatic Expansion Valve fed.
The thermometer is usually a remote type with some sort of sensing lead attached to the suction line, that is failrly accurate.

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bil b va

10-06-2006 10:11:07




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 Re: HVAC superheat testing in reply to R Bedell, 10-06-2006 08:24:08  
i have a heat pump with a orfice metering device . i have the manifold gage set . i can measure the indoor wet bulb tempature which is needed for the calculations . i just need an accurate thermometer for the indoor gas line .( in a heat pump system the larger line is the gas line and the smller one is the liquid line , the coils and bower inside are called the inside unit and the compressor and coils out side are called the outside unit ).

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R Bedell

10-06-2006 10:51:36




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 Re: HVAC superheat testing in reply to bil b va, 10-06-2006 10:11:07  
I know what a HVAC system is and the components. I am a HVAC/R contractor and have been for 35 Yrs. I have done hundreds of superheat adjustments on HVAC & Refrig equipment.



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IH2444

10-06-2006 07:33:04




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 Re: HVAC superheat testing in reply to bil b va , 10-06-2006 06:58:14  
I believe HF has an infrared non contact thermometer for $39.



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