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tennman

10-06-2006 04:34:09




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Ok guys, here is my dilemma; 30 years ago I served an apprenticeship for Toolmaker / Machine Builder. Afterwards work for about 8 years building machinery mostly for the auto industry. Did not like the ups and downs and went to work for a pharmaceutical company as a toolmaker / machine repair, shortly afterwards promoted to supervisor and to manager. Mostly working on the engineering/ maintenance side some design work, specifying equipment, installing commissioning testing etc. Now as with many manufacturing companies thing do not look so good. Without a formal degree I am wonder what is out there for a guy like me. Any suggestions, to young and poor to retire.

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Stumpalump

10-06-2006 19:10:45




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 Re: what is out there in reply to tennman, 10-06-2006 04:34:09  
Head hunters today look more at how you have progressed over the years than your edjucation. Sounds like you have done well and to me I can't see why you would not do well at any thing else.
My big break came when I got a job for a medical device company. I had a year and a half electronics school but worked my way up in the copy machine buisness. Medical companys treat you well and I would look at all the jobs they have posted. They hire the best people but usually they hire people that are allready in the medical industry and that includes you. Don't worry about the requested qualifications or experiance. All you need is to show on your resume a constant upward progression on your resume. Think out side the box, research companys you apply so you can butter up your cover letter,be assertive in your cover letter and specifically ask for an interview, be mister super positive and happy on interviews and go get some new conservitive shoes. The work place is always changing and you will adapt easily and excell some more!

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VinnieNC

10-06-2006 09:36:56




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 Re: what is out there in reply to tennman, 10-06-2006 04:34:09  
Hi Tennman,
I also work in pharmaceuticals. I would encourage you to try and stay in the field. Even without a formal degree, your GMP knowledge is very valuable to the field. Keep in mind that it also overlaps into other FDA governed fields, food and cosmetic companies. You may also want to look in to consulting. Not sure if you are interested in travel, but there is money to be made. My area of expertise is Computer Validation and we pay some consultants $75 to $100 plus per hour plus per diem.

Good Luck

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Easy1

10-06-2006 07:10:16




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 Re: what is out there in reply to tennman, 10-06-2006 04:34:09  
Really don't know what to say. Just try to stay positive and good luck. I am looking at changing careers myself. Toolmaking jobs in SE Michigan are really scarce. All the service jobs are following the production jobs out of the country. I would have thought that pharm jobs would be pretty steady. Can you drop back to hourly @ your present plant?



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Eddie in MI

10-06-2006 15:47:37




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 Re: what is out there in reply to Easy1, 10-06-2006 07:10:16  
What jobs are left in SE Michigan? It's very sad, really.

Unfortunately, to stay in your field could eventually mean that you end up relocating. Probably not the answer that you wanted. Hopefully it all works out for you.



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dej(JED)

10-06-2006 05:01:12




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 Re: what is out there in reply to tennman, 10-06-2006 04:34:09  
Don't beat yourself up so bad. Your experience
alone out weighs a degree. I run a fuels and lubes testing lab here in western, Pa. and todays young degreed people are something else.
Several of my technicians don't have degrees, but they are great and I pay them based on their exhibited abilities. We also run an automotive test area and we have a staff of 12 there. None of these guys are degreed, but they all come from a practical application background such as you have decribed.

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IaGary

10-06-2006 04:54:10




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 Re: what is out there in reply to tennman, 10-06-2006 04:34:09  
tennman

I would check with the local small machine shops.

Here in Iowa I know of two local weld, machine shops that would love to hire someone with your experience.

Pay may not be as good, but it would be decent pay.


Gary



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