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Cordless batteries?

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Dick2

10-03-2006 15:44:12




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If you buy a 2-pack of cordless batteries, can you expect that they will both die at about the same time?




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jim in N.M.

10-04-2006 07:55:37




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 Re: Cordless batteries? in reply to Dick2, 10-03-2006 15:44:12  
I"ve been told ,NEVER use a battery that just came out of the charger,let it cool down first,it"s supposed to make the life of the battery last longer. I don"t know if it"s true but thats what I do. Just my .02 cents worth. Jim in N M



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larry in tn

10-04-2006 00:16:25




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 Re: Cordless batteries? in reply to Dick2, 10-03-2006 15:44:12  
I've found each battery pack to have its own discharge characteristic. I think that the packs vary more with age.

All the hassle with battery packs is the price you pay to be able to be truly portable.

I've seen post after post about rechargeable batteries on this forum but hardly anything about the proper use and treatment of Nicades or Nmh cells.

Killer .1 That fast charger you use to hurry things along. It generates battery killing heat within the pack itself. Slow charge when ever possible.(C-10 rate).

Killer .2 Not running the battery down enough between charges contributes to the so called memory effect. Figure a cell(Nmh. or Nicade) run down if its below 1.20 vdc. Both types of battery works within the 1.20 to 1.25 vdc range. Nmh batteries do have a memory despite what you maybe told by your local tool salesperson.

Killer .3 Leaving your battery packs exposed to high temperature's such as inside a closed truck cab or tool box in mid-summer heat. Because I fly radio controlled airplanes I've had to learn about battery systems. The effect of the hot cab/toolbox escaped me for a while. Once I learned that storage heat was killing my tool packs I was able to double or even sometimes triple my battery life. A cheap cooler with reusable ice packs all but eliminated my battery problems. It's also cheaper than a battery pack.

Killer .4 Don't forget that battery powered tool's in order to stay small and portable give up a certain amount of power in return. Working them twice as hard usually don't make-up for a tools that too small to began with.

Don't expect a great improvement if you switch from Nicades to Nmh. The Nicade still has the edge. The next real advance in tool batteries will be a suitable Lithium-ion battery. It's here already but expensive.

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Jim K

10-03-2006 19:17:48




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 Re: Cordless batteries? in reply to Dick2, 10-03-2006 15:44:12  
Do you mean to tell me that they also make batteries WITH cords. I gotta get me one of them I'll bet them suckers never die. I need one for my drill. Then all I would need is an extension cord long enough to reach the job at hand. Hey! I just had a wild thought what if they made a drill that you could just plug into a wall socket,
Damn I could be rich, just think never have to carry them heavy batteries around.
Or better yet a tool that you could hold in your hand and with a twisting motion it magicaly forces screws into all kinds of stuff, like wood steel, plastics, heck you could screw just about anything. But what would I call it? Hmmm,
I hate when I only need to drill one hole and it's on the other side of my property, I decide to leave the spare battery at the house, (cause it's only one hole) I get all the way out there and am only able to drill half a hole. Never fails.
So now I always carry the second battery.
A little levity, very little.
Jim K

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Jim K

10-03-2006 19:15:29




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 Re: Cordless batteries? in reply to Dick2, 10-03-2006 15:44:12  
Do you mean to tell me that they also make batteries WITH cords. I gotta get me one of them I'll bet them suckers never die. I need one for my drill. Then all I would need is an extension cord long enough to reach the job at hand. Hey! I just had a wild thought what if they made a drill that you could just plug into a wall socket,
Damn I could be rich, just think never have to carry them heavy batteries around.
Or better yet a tool that you could hold in your hand and with a twisting motion it magicaly forces screws into all kinds of stuff, like wood steel, plastics, heck you could screw all kinds of stuff. But what would I call it? Hmmm,
I hate when I only need to drill one hole and it's on the other side of my property, I decide to leave the spare battery at the house, (cause it's only one hole) I get all the way out there and am only able to drill half a hole. Never fails.
So now I always carry the second battery.
A little levity, very little.
Jim K

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jmixigo

10-03-2006 17:57:56




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 Re: Cordless batteries? in reply to Dick2, 10-03-2006 15:44:12  
It NEVER works that way for me. One of em'll usually last bout twice as long as the other.



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