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SHOP HOIST AND HEATING ?'s

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TIMAR

09-25-2006 08:56:38




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I am currently constructing a 45"Lx32"Wx16"H fully insulated shop. 2 ?"s. What heat source and hoist. I have narrowed it down to thermal floor heat and a corn stove. I have propane near the shed and also grain storage for 12,00 bushel 30" away. Corn stove is $3800 for a good one that does not need wood pellets to start or need daily cleaning. Thermal tubing for the floor is going to run $800 plus the water heater and pump. What do you guys use? Cost per day? Best heat,etc?

2nd ? I would like to put a 1" dia pipe in the center of the 45" 8" away from wall which would put it along my loft. It would be anchored to the concrete with 8 32" anchors in 40" of concrete below the floor. Will this support a beam swing length of 20" with a 2000# hoist? I am no engineer and do not have access to one locally. Websites that I can figure myself?

I thought about and A-frame unit, but I want to be able to swing it over the loft to put oil drums up out of the way, but I could use out Skid Loader to do this I guess.
Any ideas and comments would be greatly appreciated.

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IA Roy

09-26-2006 20:27:29




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 Re: SHOP HOIST AND HEATING ?'s in reply to TIMAR, 09-25-2006 08:56:38  
Look for a jib crane supplier. When you find one like you want to build, get the specifications from the supplier, and the recommended concrete footings and reinforcement. The salesman can be quite helpful if he thinks he is going to get a sale.



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LeJo

09-25-2006 18:06:44




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 Re: SHOP HOIST AND HEATING ?'s in reply to TIMAR, 09-25-2006 08:56:38  
Go with the in floor heating, you will never be sorry. Don't forget to put antifreeze into the system.Le



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paul

09-25-2006 11:19:48




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 Re: SHOP HOIST AND HEATING ?'s in reply to TIMAR, 09-25-2006 08:56:38  
Hard to beat the infloor heat. You can get a corn boiler that would feed the tubes. Just a thought.

I'm no engineer. This web site often displays the foot symbol as an inch symbol, so for some of us your whole message only discusses things in inches. As in, you have a 20 inch long crane in the center of a 48 inch long shed.... ;)

--->Paul



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JD4840

09-25-2006 10:12:50




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 Re: SHOP HOIST AND HEATING ?'s in reply to TIMAR, 09-25-2006 08:56:38  
We heat our horse barn with radiant tubes in the concrete and an outside wood burning furnace. We have antifreeze (plumbing supply store) in the floor tubes that is pumped by three zone controls with floor sensing thermostats. There is a water-to-water heat exchanger that transfers heat between the water from the furnace and the liquid in the floor. The system works great - heated floors are the way to go. The antifreeze in the floor tubes protects the floor if you wanted to shut down a zone or if there was a long term power outage. The hot water from the furnace circulates all the time. We went with a used moveable "A" frame 5 ton 12ft wide by 12 ft high gantry for the shop (e-bay). It's nice to move it wherever you need it.

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TIMAR

09-25-2006 08:59:38




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 Re: SHOP HOIST AND HEATING ?'s in reply to TIMAR, 09-25-2006 08:56:38  
Should have read 12,000 bus corn 30' away and the pipe would be 1 ft dia 1/4 wall. No matter how many times I read it over I see mistakes after I post it.



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504-1

09-25-2006 19:53:19




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 Re: SHOP HOIST AND HEATING ?'s in reply to TIMAR, 09-25-2006 08:59:38  
Tim,Be sure to use foil backed bubble insulation under the pipe. I got mine at a local heating and air wholesale warehouse. I got the pex at the pex connection(goggle search)



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