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Metal Halide -shop lighting

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DJL

09-22-2006 21:37:26




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I've got a good sized Morton shed where I keep some equipment and some restored tractors. The shed has about (8) 200 Watt incedscent light bulbs. I'm wanting to illuminate a corner of the shed at a better level for working. This space is about 18'X30'. Would a single 400 W Metal Halide high-bay light do the trick?
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Genep

09-24-2006 18:19:58




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 Re: Metal Halide -shop lighting in reply to DJL, 09-22-2006 21:37:26  
I changed the metal halide bulbs in some of our outside lights at church recently and the instructions with the new bulbs said not to install in areas where people would be for more than a few minutes.



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dr.sportster

09-23-2006 12:49:51




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 Re: Metal Halide -shop lighting in reply to DJL, 09-22-2006 21:37:26  
I have been working under them for six or seven months on a job.I cant wait until its over.They are making me sick.Just use flourescent then you have choices of color style.What is called task lighting is what you need for a workbench not high bay lighting such as metal halide.Ballasts and lamps are costly also.Old lamps cant be tossed in the garbage because they are hazardous waste.They will drive you crazy.AAAAA hhhhh .

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Glen in TX

09-23-2006 12:38:33




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 Re: Metal Halide -shop lighting in reply to DJL, 09-22-2006 21:37:26  
I believe all those lights take a while to get bright and start and turn on ? That's bad if you only have those kind turned on and power blinks at night leaving you in dark. Had that happen to me when using those kind of lights on portable pole stands while painting at night. I also didn't like the light as well off them and finally went to different bulbs but still don't like the color you get for painting at night. I liked the high output flourescent better than metal halide but that's me. Check them out in someone else's shop first and see what you think?

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big jt

09-23-2006 08:01:39




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 Re: Metal Halide -shop lighting in reply to DJL, 09-22-2006 21:37:26  
I don't know how much those fixtures cost but I would recomend against using 1 fixture to light any work area. I had worked some in a building that had some of those type fixtures and you were always working in a shadow.

When we built I put in 8' florescent fixtures on the ceiling of a 40 X 64 shop. 6 two bulb and then added two more later. Have some more over the bench and in work areas. I realize you may have already bought this but I would suggest against using it.

JM2CW

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Richard H.

09-23-2006 05:48:48




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 Re: Metal Halide -shop lighting in reply to DJL, 09-22-2006 21:37:26  
Along with what the others said below as far as "work" light those can really be hard on the eyes after prolonged periods of time, at least for me they are. The UV output is a little much and my eyes tire quickly from it. Richard



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John T

09-23-2006 05:36:24




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 Re: Metal Halide -shop lighting in reply to DJL, 09-22-2006 21:37:26  
DJL, The problems not so much the available Lumens that fixture puts out (plenty) but distributing them over a wide area. You could end up real bright in one area but darker in others. It depends mostly on the fixture design (not the bulb) and if its for Low Bay or High Bay use, Low Bay probably best in your application. Instead of a 400 watt single fixture, why not consider 4 each of 100 watt for much better distribution, but knowing thats a lot more expensive???

The obvious advantage of High Intensity Discharge lighting is much more lumens per watt but the trade offs are the initial strike and restrike times plus the cost. Metal Halide (as compared to Sodium) has pretty good color rendition with the phosphor coated lamps so its a good shop lighting choice.

John T

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Charles (in GA)

09-23-2006 02:27:47




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 Re: Metal Halide -shop lighting in reply to DJL, 09-22-2006 21:37:26  
High bay lights do not spread light well, and are designed to be mounted above 20 ft generally. For this sized area a couple of low bay lights would be needed to get good coverage and light dispersal.

Charles



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Gerald J.

09-22-2006 21:43:50




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 Re: Metal Halide -shop lighting in reply to DJL, 09-22-2006 21:37:26  
Unless you have a 30' ceiling height, you'd be happier with a low bay fixture and you will need patience when turning it on. It will take a while to come up to full power and it will take at least as long to come back on after a power glitch.

Gerald J.



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