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T_Bone

09-22-2006 16:36:04




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Ok guys, I'm not having a good thinking day but ran into a good deal for tomorrow.

This saleman has some "white painted" 12.5ga high tensil electric fence wire for a cheap price. 1/2 cost

One side of my brain says it's painted and won't work as electric fence. Saleman swears it will.

The other side of my brain is numb and won't answer.

T-post: Says both are 1.35lb. How do you tell them apart from 1.25lb? Marked?
6ft= $4.08
7ft= $5.95

Is HomeDepot 1.25lb T-posts that much lighter for e-fence? 7ft = $4.95

Well?

T_Bone

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dan hill

10-05-2006 03:11:25




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 Re: Electric Fence Wire in reply to T_Bone, 09-22-2006 16:36:04  
A coat of paint wont stop an electric arc that jumps a 3/8 inch gap.



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Phil Crpme

09-22-2006 18:06:41




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 Re: Electric Fence Wire in reply to T_Bone, 09-22-2006 16:36:04  
I would be careful that it is white paint and not "white rust" which I have seen on some high tensile smooth wire. Looks like the galvanizing has been dusted with hard powdered sugar or the like. If it is the aforementioned rust, it is likely that the salesman cannot sell it to any of his commercial fencebuilding customers who reject it out of hand.

I am no expert but have strung about five miles of HT smooth wire here on our rolling acreage in NW Illinois. Probably 10% of the wire, purchased from a friend of mine in the fence business, ahows this white rust, as pronounced by my neighbor the proofessional fence builder. In seven years of weather exposure, I can find no evidence of premature or accelerated wear or failure of the protective covering, which is not to say that there won't be some a week from now.

If it really is white paint or a similar coating, I have seen some coated fence wire which has been very aesthetically pleasing and very effective in conducting electricity. You should be able to Google the manufacturer and check their line for this item. The coating would not be a dealbreaker for me.

As to the posts, in my mind it depends. If you are truly building High-tensile electric fence, that typically means wood H-brace assemblies at corners and dips with a wood line post every 50 feet max. Steel posts are typically used only as spacers between the wood. In that case, the lighter (cheaper) ones should work fine. If you are building temporary electric fence in the yard, HT wire is not the way to go because the memory and spring of the wire make it virtually impossible for me to work with because of the necessity of stretching. Others' experience may differ, of course.

A word of caution: if you are considering a HT smooth wire fence for horses, I urge you to reconsider. The combination of relatively low visibility, high strength, and high tension can cause some spectacular wounds when horses attempt to run through it when spooked, playing, or other horselike behavior. My wife is a large animal vet, she says they look just like a cheesecutter going through cheese. In fact, the coated wire has been brough to market to address the visibility issues associated with plain HT wire.

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Phil Crome

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nballen

09-25-2006 08:57:56




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 Re: Electric Fence Wire in reply to Phil Crpme, 09-22-2006 18:06:41  
When we used smooth wire for our horses (growing up) we would "flag" the fence 2-3 times between each post - just a bright bit of surveyor tape, strips of rag, whatever. Sure helped with the visibility.

We preferred the smooth wire, never had problems with wire cuts, or the like. Occasionally the horses would bust through, but most always when we had left the electric fencer off for a couple days.

Nathaniel

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Ralph - Ohio

09-22-2006 17:13:20




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 Re: Electric Fence Wire in reply to T_Bone, 09-22-2006 16:36:04  
First thoughts: 12.5 ga seems a little heavy for electric fence wire. Might not be a bargain compared to lighter, cheaper wire. Because of heavy weight might need more posts to minimize sag. If the white coating is not conductive I can't see how an animal could get shocked from it even with the high voltage used with fencers. If you can't measure the resistance with a multimeter through the coating I wouldn't bet on it working.

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T_Bone

09-23-2006 06:56:13




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 Re: Electric Fence Wire in reply to Ralph - Ohio, 09-22-2006 17:13:20  
Well DUH Ralph, yep you hit the nail on the head and I'll take my DVM with me.

I had already planned on 12.5ga wire and spacing the T's at 25ft with wood "H" cornners.

T_Bone



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paul

09-23-2006 00:38:42




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 Re: Electric Fence Wire in reply to Ralph - Ohio, 09-22-2006 17:13:20  
I'd probe the wire too to see if it passes electricity. Good idea.

I use 2-strand barbed wire for the electric wire, that lasts the best. That thin smooth stuff is a joke.

But then I have holstien cross, that might explain a lot....

--->Paul



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T_Bone

09-23-2006 13:39:40




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 Re: GOD Has Humor!!! in reply to paul, 09-23-2006 00:38:42  
Hi Paul,

Well he does has.

The idiot saleman lied as it stated right on the wire package.... non-conductive. Well there's 185 mile RT shot to heII. I would bet his ears are still ringing

Had to take a 5mile detour for road construction. Of course I took the wrong road!

Went to a uppper end feed store for horse people while were out. Don't sell barb-wire as there's too much libility involved????? Then I noticed his hay prices:
Timothy $19.95
Alfalfa $9.95
Straw $6.95

The wife picked-up two plastic balls for our puppies, $2.95eh rang the sale up as $12.95eh Ohh I forgot to put the one in front of the 2. Keep your balls then.

Stop by the mail box to mail a letter.

Get down towards the house and a older lady is waving at the wife as she gets out of a car. We flip a U and she wants a ride home. Sure no problem as it's on the way and it's still 95� here for a 6 mile walk. She had hitch hiked 20 miles into town to buy staples. We can't understand her to much as she has no teeth.

So GOD got us out of the house to day to mail a letter and give a woman a ride. What a sense of humor he has....LOL

T_Bone

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paul

09-25-2006 18:59:18




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 Re: GOD Has Humor!!! in reply to T_Bone, 09-23-2006 13:39:40  
Oh man! There are days like that.

--->Paul



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souNdguy

09-23-2006 21:35:25




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 Re: GOD Has Humor!!! in reply to T_Bone, 09-23-2006 13:39:40  
That salesman has a good chance at a carrear selling used cars.. or politics..

Soundguy



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