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lenray

09-19-2006 16:32:28




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We heat our home with an oil fired boiler and a wood fired boiler. Mostly use the wood boiler.

We also have a fireplace-stone- that covers the entire west wall of our living room.

Thinking of putting a propane heater vented up the fireplace chimney. It would be used to take the chill off in the fall and spring.

Any ideas of the kind to buy and any other thoughs would be appreciated.




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Harvey1

09-20-2006 04:49:02




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 Re: OT FIREPLACE INSERT in reply to lenray, 09-19-2006 16:32:28  
Len ray

As previously stated, perhaps you should consider the wood insert, I did this a few years back and I love it. I had a propane fireplace in my previous house, it was nice, low maintenace but quite expensive.



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lenray

09-20-2006 06:05:08




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 Re: OT FIREPLACE INSERT in reply to Harvey1, 09-20-2006 04:49:02  
Thanks for the suggestions--I didn't make my question very clear.
We currently have a wood insert in the fireplace and it works very well puts out a lot of heat. But because we also heat with a wood fired boiler we are looking for a little easier heat for those days when we don't need full heat say early fall and spring.
Being a geezer the wood boiler is about all the wood burning we can handle.
Looking at propane or electric for some extra easy heat source. Money not the bigger issue.
Again thanks for your thoughts would like to hear a few more.

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Vern-MI

09-20-2006 04:16:04




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 Re: OT FIREPLACE INSERT in reply to lenray, 09-19-2006 16:32:28  
Go with a vented unit. Use a coaxial, tube inside of a tube, chimney liner to provide makeup air to the burner. The incoming air comes in between the outer and inner tube while the exhaust air goes out the center or inner tube. That way the rest of the house won't suffer from the cold air temps as the system pulls air from anywhere it can get it.



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mph

09-19-2006 23:02:58




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 Re: OT FIREPLACE INSERT in reply to lenray, 09-19-2006 16:32:28  
Why not get a fireplace wood burnning insert,I have a friend that went that way, said its the only way to go,and your already using some wood.



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banjo

09-19-2006 17:50:01




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 Re: OT FIREPLACE INSERT in reply to lenray, 09-19-2006 16:32:28  
Or you could get a ventless infared heater and mount on the front. If you get one there are several choices. blueflame- in my opinion use more LP. Infrared- have one and it works good.

Now there are thermostat and non thermostat. On a thermostat model all the grates come on at once. the manual type usually have several numbers of grates to use instead of all at the same time.

Theses have a low oxygen shutoff, so if your house is real tight it may deplete the oxy and go out.That is if you run it for an extended amout of time.

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Bob

09-19-2006 21:46:17




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 Re: OT FIREPLACE INSERT in reply to banjo, 09-19-2006 17:50:01  
WHY would you want a heater that could deplete oxygen in your home, not to mention adding carbon monoxide and hydrocarbon vapors to the air you breathe????


I just can't figure out WHY anyone would want such a thing in their home, vs. a VENTED heater.



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banjo

09-20-2006 13:10:06




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 Re: OT FIREPLACE INSERT in reply to Bob, 09-19-2006 21:46:17  
anything that has a flame uses oxygen,wood,Lp,coal.It does'nt use all the oxygen.this ole house has plenty of drafts so it is not an issue.

when the electric is out I still have heat.



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Bob

09-20-2006 16:57:59




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 Re: OT FIREPLACE INSERT in reply to banjo, 09-20-2006 13:10:06  
Breathing the combustion products IS an issue, as well as all the water vapor resulting from combustion getting dumped in the living space.

Look on the EPA website some time, and see some of the comments on what a witch's brew of nasty stuff unvented heaters dump into the air folks breathe.

They're NOT for me, thank you!



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Joe in MN

09-19-2006 16:54:35




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 Re: OT FIREPLACE INSERT in reply to lenray, 09-19-2006 16:32:28  
Lenray: I don't know how big your boiler is, but if you just use wood for fuel, that must be the cheapest way to heat your home, unless your not interested in what it cost, think of the safety, L.P heating isn't the safest to use nor the cheapest, Have you checked the Yellow Pages or you can just put the question into Google, that will get you started not knowing where your located...

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