Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Attention Forum Users: On the 28th of December 2023 at 9:00am Central Time, we will be taking the forums down for maintenance while we prepare the new forums for your use. Please click here for more information.

Tool Talk Discussion Forum

O/T Steel Arch Buildings

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Richard Fazio

09-11-2006 10:23:02




Report to Moderator

I know there has been some discusions on this board about steel arch buildings. My question is has anyone delt with American Steel Span. I'm thinking of getting a 40' X 40' building from them. The price seems right, it's almost the same as one of those fabric covered buildings. I'd rather go for steel than fabric and the construction doesn't seem hard either. Any advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
550Doug

09-12-2006 18:06:36




Report to Moderator
 Re: O/T Steel Arch Buildings in reply to Richard Fazio, 09-11-2006 10:23:02  
Here's another option that takes a smaller crew to set up. It uses post and beam method:
Link



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Richard Fazio

09-12-2006 10:20:43




Report to Moderator
 Re: O/T Steel Arch Buildings in reply to Richard Fazio, 09-11-2006 10:23:02  
Thanks for all the info guys. I should have mentioned a few things. First this building is going up at my airport as a hanger. There can be no cement. We were going to bury 6X6 green and then the channels get lag bolted to that. This is supposed to be a temporary building. That's what makes it allowed at the airport. I'm going with the arch only to start. Then later I'll add the rear wall and maybe after that I'll put up a door of some sort. A lot of guys are using the fabric buildings. But this steel arch is about the same price. I know there are a lot of bolts to install. I figured on a compressor and air tools to tighten up the bolts. Can two or three guys lift these sections up? The building is 40X40 supposidly 15 feet high. I'm worried I'll need a lift of some sort to get them up.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Mike M

09-12-2006 07:41:46




Report to Moderator
 Re: O/T Steel Arch Buildings in reply to Richard Fazio, 09-11-2006 10:23:02  
Aren't those types more prone to moisture problems ? I guess your climate would make a difference.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
504-1

09-11-2006 20:57:32




Report to Moderator
 Re: O/T Steel Arch Buildings in reply to Richard Fazio, 09-11-2006 10:23:02  
Richard, I have a 40x60x16 arch,by the time you pour the concret for the base and pour grought in the valleys it would have been cheaper to put up a pole barn. They said 3 people could put it up,eight was a good crew and it took 5 days.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Cliff (VA)

09-11-2006 17:58:05




Report to Moderator
 Re: O/T Steel Arch Buildings in reply to Richard Fazio, 09-11-2006 10:23:02  
I work for a company that makes machinery to field fabricate and erect steel arch buildings.

Steel arches have many advantages. The first and most obvious is the lack of internal structure and trusses to get in the way on the inside. The buildings can be quite large (we can span up to just under 100'). With a large crew we can erect a building in as little as 2 days. We build a 50' x 80' building in PA in 8 days with a crew of about 30. Two were rainouts, two for site prep and foundation. One and half for the arches and 2 and a half for endwalls.

Our equipment is trucked to the site and actually forms the panels on site. They are continuous and are seamed together like a tin can. No holes = no leaks. If you need a hanging point, we add tabs to the seams to allow lights/HVAC ect. to be hung from the ceiling.

The problem with most of our completitors buiidings are made of small sections of factory formed panels that are bolted together. Thousands of bolts. Bolt = holes = leaks (eventually even with rubber washers).

The panels are hard to erect without proper lifting gear and a crane. We usually use a crew of 8 and a lifting bar on an all terain fork lift for small buildings. The isolated arches are quite flimsy and will buckle if handled wrong.
Even leaving a completed arch sitting for a few days can create a permenant twist that will show in the finished building (don't ask me how I know this).

Tying the building down can be somewhat problematic. We weld down the building to the foundation and pour a concrete curb around the base. Much sturdier than just bolting it to brackets. It holds up much better in the wind.

I would also plan to erect the building start to finish. Partially completed buildings can come down in a variety of conditions including unexpected wind or snow.

I would be happy to discuss this further offline if you would like.

Good luck in your decision.

Cliff (VA)

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
railhead

09-11-2006 19:43:29




Report to Moderator
 Re: O/T Steel Arch Buildings in reply to Cliff (VA), 09-11-2006 17:58:05  
This man speaks GREAT advice. I put up one of the factory bent arch buildings once.....I SAID ONCE. Never agian. 30 x 40 building equaled 5500 bolts. Took a while and my fingers were sore for weeks. You can only finger tighten till you get it all up then go back and tighten with tools, one guy outside and one guy inside. IT TAKES FOREVER



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
MI Mark

09-11-2006 16:14:23




Report to Moderator
 Re: O/T Steel Arch Buildings in reply to Richard Fazio, 09-11-2006 10:23:02  
I don"t know much about them . I did however take a steel frame building out to a guy in WY near casper that blew over during assembly and what mess pieces all over just my 2cents.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
ShepFL

09-11-2006 15:05:56




Report to Moderator
 Re: O/T Steel Arch Buildings in reply to Richard Fazio, 09-11-2006 10:23:02  
I looked at them and the price is attractive. I ended up with a straight wall bldg. After walking thru a few of the arched bldgs. I was struck by the amount of lost space between the ribs. Another area of concern was lack of fastening points if I wanted to use the bldg for leverage i.e. jib crane etc.

Best of luck with your choice.

JMHO



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bus Driver

09-11-2006 14:38:46




Report to Moderator
 Re: O/T Steel Arch Buildings in reply to Richard Fazio, 09-11-2006 10:23:02  
I have not tried it personally, but I am told that those arches can be tricky to erect without buckling, especially the first one. Scaffolding and lots of help are suggested.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Ken Macfarlane

09-12-2006 07:06:02




Report to Moderator
 Re: O/T Steel Arch Buildings in reply to Bus Driver, 09-11-2006 14:38:46  
From putting together a similar project, buy a cordless impact wrench and leave the 1-hr charger nearby. You'll be swapping batteries more frequently than the charge time but it will give you time to do other things. Cutting time of doing fasteners by at least half.

We recently were doing another project driving 5/8" x 3" lag bolts, something like 2000 of them and the cordless impact was an arm saver! We tried putting some in with a cross lug wrench but the guy with the impact could get 10 in for each one with the cross wrench.

For sure wear hearing protection though.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy