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Truck Owner

09-11-2006 06:36:47




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I need to pick up a new truck. Most of my heavy work is done with trailers and tractors, so I am leaving the world of full size for the compact truck market. Having never had a little one, what should I watch for and what brands do you guys recommend.

Thanks for the help.




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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

09-12-2006 18:02:38




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
My 95 Toyota 4Runner 4 cylinder, 5 speed shares mechanical components with the small pickup.

Summer mileage 28 miles per Imperial gallon
Winter mileage 25 mpg

In 11 years and 337,000 km it has needed the repairs listed below.

1 dist. cap and wires
1 set of brake calipers and rotors (back brakes still fine)
1 timing chain
1 radiator
1 muffler
1 gas tank
1 battery
1 starter rebuild
1 backup light sensor
56 oil changes
some paint and spark plugs
tailgate assembly replaced under warranty at 5 yr.

That's it.

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Koss

09-12-2006 16:36:39




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
Not that I can give the best advise but I've been driving Chev's for forty years now. the 96 one I have now has 155000 on it and no problems other than plugs and wire at 125000. The one befor had 245000 and still ran pretty well but the body was falling off after 15 years. And the money I spent to by these trucks went back to AMERICAN families. Most of the parts used to assemble those Nissan and toyota's and hyundai's real;y goes back to Japan , Korea not to the workers who work here non union and all. Why not help America

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Truck Owner

09-12-2006 06:25:52




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
THANKS! I appreciate the advice from a bunch of guys that seem to be knowledgable and value engineering focused.

Thanks to all that posted - I'll post an update with the final choice.

Thanks again.



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Brian in NY

09-13-2006 10:28:07




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-12-2006 06:25:52  
A small truck comes down to a few things in my opionion. Durability, Fuel Economy, and comfort.
I have driven the Colorado/Canyon twins and was not impressed--Isuzu's are just rebadged GMs) Ditto for the Dakota and the Mitsu twin. The Ranger is so old tech it isn't really worth considering. The Nissan Frontier is a good solid truck, as is the Toyota Tacoma. I personally prefer the Nissan, I think you get more for your money. I'd buy a Chevy or Ford if I was going full size, but for now Japan has the corner on the midsize market. Good luck.

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red boy 656

09-12-2006 06:20:51




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
I like Ford Rangers, the V6 is powerful for a 3.6 or whatever it is(4wd), and by the way powerstrokes rule!



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gold-leaf-deere

09-11-2006 20:50:50




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
Buy a Ford, make it ride like a Chevy and put a Dodge-Cummins engine it, I am old enough that I am still mentally fighting the WW 2, so leave the durn Jap trucks alone.



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Phil9N3667

09-11-2006 16:30:16




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
Please, whatever you do,don't get a Ford with the 6.0 liter Powerstroke (from International). Those things are hard enough to work on in a big truck, let alone a pickup! Good luck!



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Rick (IA)

09-11-2006 15:32:10




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
Went in to the local dealership all ready to buy a Ford Explorer SportTrac but came home with a Dodge Dakota QuadCab Laramie instead. SWMBO liked it better, and it looked like a better choice for towing the 8N to shows. Got about 2K miles on it in the last month and no regrets.



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Stinky Cheese

09-11-2006 14:52:06




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
Anything but a Ford I guess, since they are going to close dealerships and focus on cars. And they just hired a new CEO for 2 million a year, then gave him an 18 million signing bonus and 10 million in stock options. Sounds like they really mean business to me. LOL

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Dug

09-11-2006 19:26:36




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Stinky Cheese, 09-11-2006 14:52:06  
Ford is not abondoning the truck market, it is their cornerstone...and I hope that CEO is worth the money, I own Ford stock!



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Bus Driver

09-11-2006 14:44:15




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
I have not read all the other replies. No doubt all the various brands have gotten good recommendations. I have two 1998 1/2 ton pickups. One is Ford F150 4WD with 5.4 engine and almost 25K miles. The other is Chevy 2WD with 4.3 V6 and about 133K miles. The Ford has required more repairs than has the Chevy. The Ford has been used gently and looks like new. The Chevy is a work truck.



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Jiles

09-11-2006 13:37:57




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
I don't think anyone makes a small truck. The used-to-be small trucks are the size, or bigger, then the older Dodge Dakota. I have driven Dodge for many years and they are good until you need warranty work. Just be careful. I now drive a 2001 Ford Ranger with 4L engine and I love it. I have never had any trouble with warranty work except with Dodge--Sad because they used to have the best.



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Woodbutcher

09-11-2006 11:16:01




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
I've always been partial to Chevies. I have a 2002 Silverado with 5.3 v-8. It runs good and rides great. But I only use it for pulling trailers or long trips. I have a 95 Nissan hardbody for local use and farm work. It's built like a tractor. I have a spray rig that I mount in back for spraying my 130 acres of pasture. But gas mileage is no better than the Chevrolet.
Butch



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Rob NC

09-11-2006 10:27:30




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
I agree with Logan, I had a 96 1/2 ton Chevy work truck 250,000 miles no problems,and now I got a 03 Chevy 1/2 ton, 150,000 no problems. The economy is there with these trucks, but yet you get a full size cab and bed. End of the year savings, you'll probably buy one cheaper than the compact truck.



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cj3b_jeep

09-11-2006 10:16:00




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
I've driven Toyotas for 16 years now. My first had 300,000 on it when I got rid of it. Two timing chain/water pumps, two clutches, two alternators. That's all I ever did to it. My current one has 202,000. It's the v6 and had had some head work done and needs more. I'd had more than 1 ton on this thing, but space is limited.
Unfortunately, the new Toyotas are pretty ugly compared to the Chevy Colorado and Ford Ranger.

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Stan in Oly, WA

09-11-2006 09:42:30




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
Hi T O,

I drive a '93 Nissan p/u that I bought when it was a year old with 13K miles on it. It is the best running, most trouble free vehicle I have ever owned. To be fair though, it's only got 170K miles on it now, I've never used it for towing, rarely hauled as much as twice its rated capacity, or driven it on unimproved road.

My wife's younger brother, who owns a tile and marble company, favors Dodge trucks and seems to go through them pretty fast. Of course he's image conscious too, and a new truck makes you look successful so I don't know how much that plays into it.

All the best, Stan

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2x4

09-11-2006 21:45:45




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 09-11-2006 09:42:30  
Gotta second this choice. Bought my "89 nissan new, still my main work truck & has the ORIGINAL rear brakes. Probably $1000 would cover all maintaince in 17 years. Once pulled a National Guard Humvee out of a ditch. Big snow once & I chained up all 4 tires. I was the only one going in several feet of snow.



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Tim B from MA

09-11-2006 09:41:32




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
My wife and I bought Subarus for years - great cars.

My wife got a Toyota 2000, fine car with no major issues since new; we just gave that to our son and she picked up another.

I bought a new F-350 diesel in 2001. I like my truck but the engine has been pulled out twice, I replace ball joints, alternator, starter motor, I has oil leaks.

I probably won't buy anything but Japanese brands in the future.

I'd get a Toyota.

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Mike M

09-11-2006 09:28:43




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
TOYOTA is going to give you the best service.



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Logan in SE Tex.

09-11-2006 08:31:51




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
IMHO: For my money you would be just as well off to buy a GM product regular 1/2 ton truck. You will get more vehicle for about the same $$$. You will get better mileage in a true "small" truck but all you get is a good gas mileage vehicle that is shaped like a truck, it will have none of the working characteristics.



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OldsterGA

09-11-2006 07:21:08




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
I had a Mitsubishi for about 10 years and would highly recommend them. Of course, their quality could have diminished since I got mine but I doubt it.



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dab

09-11-2006 06:46:49




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Truck Owner, 09-11-2006 06:36:47  
Been a while since I had one of those, but I have owned chevy (S-10), ford ranger and a toyota. Toyota was a rusted piece of crap when I got it and ran like a top when I sold it. But of all the trucks I had the S-10 got the best milage but it only had a 4cyl in it. My brother has been faithfull to the dodge market. Nice truck but my 1 ton chevy and my dad's 1 ton dodge, both diesels get better milage then his dakota does. Don't know if this helps any or not for they don't even make the S-10 any more.

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Aowner

09-11-2006 12:21:50




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to dab, 09-11-2006 06:46:49  
I drive a farmall, massey ferguson, john deere, ford and chevy's, stick with a American product.



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Pitch

09-11-2006 17:20:57




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Aowner, 09-11-2006 12:21:50  
Now that would be a chevy built in Mexico and a ford built in Canada right? Unloike my brothers Nissan built in California I think or my wifes Hyundai built in Georgia.



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Pitch

09-11-2006 17:20:45




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Aowner, 09-11-2006 12:21:50  
Now that would be a chevy built in Mexico and a ford built in Canada right? Unloike my brothers Nissan built in California I think or my wifes Hyundai built in Georgia.



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Pitch

09-11-2006 17:20:36




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Aowner, 09-11-2006 12:21:50  
Now that would be a chevy built in Mexico and a ford built in Canada right? Unloike my brothers Nissan built in California I think or my wifes Hyundai built in Georgia.



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720Deere

09-16-2006 17:18:02




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 Re: New truck advice in reply to Pitch, 09-11-2006 17:20:36  
My Ford truck was built in Kentucky! I follow what you are saying. Honda cars are built in Ohio, Toyota trucks - Georgia (I think) and the list goes on. I have owned a Toyota truck since it was new in 91 and FourRunner since 2002 and they have both been great trucks.

I just hope this new Powerstroke 6.0 holds up a lot better than the early models have! If you look at all the recalls on full size trucks from all the big three, it's not hard to see why Ford and GM are in big financial trouble. They can spend millions to put their names on football stadiums and millions to have Superbowl commercials, but can't build a vehicle as reliable as the J@ps did 30 years ago! These id1ots think the first thing you do when you're in trouble is spend more money you don't have to develope new models. How about perfecting the ones you have? Also, spending over $20 million on a new CEO doesn't exactly sound fiscally responsible either.

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