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Sam (MO)

09-08-2006 06:02:19




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I am installing a yard hydrant and when I tested the operation I noticed that water would come out of the drain valve while the water is running. Is this normal or do I have something wrong?
thanks Sam




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banjo

09-08-2006 21:18:26




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 Re: OT: Yard hydrant in reply to Sam (MO), 09-08-2006 06:02:19  
Funny you should mention this as i just put 2 in yesterday and they do the same thing. actually i bought a china brand( only one they had at the time) and installed it and it did drip a little with the valve open. I thought it was defective and went and bought a american made one and it did the same thing.I put another one in a different location and it dripped also when open. I did notice if i didn't raise the handle all the way it would not drip.So if you have a hose on it with a sprayer on it i guess it will drip a little when open. Just have to remember to shut it off when not in use.

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SATSOP

09-08-2006 10:04:23




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 Re: OT: Yard hydrant in reply to Sam (MO), 09-08-2006 06:02:19  
Sam

Be aware that a hydrant (yard or fire) should only be all the way open or all the way closed or it may/will undermine it self.

I had one that was being held open by a small rock, we could not figure why one of the lawn sprinklers was plugged with sand? The flow of water past the partly open drain caused suction and drew the sand in. All is well now.



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neblinc

09-08-2006 08:40:22




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 Re: OT: Yard hydrant in reply to Sam (MO), 09-08-2006 06:02:19  
Here is a diagram of how they work.



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Coloken

09-08-2006 07:24:35




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 Re: OT: Yard hydrant in reply to Sam (MO), 09-08-2006 06:02:19  
Oh,OH, I beg to disagree with Allan. Been a long time and I do not have one in front of me, but when it is on, the plunger is supposed to cover the drain hole. Can't have a hydrant that is on all the time leaking and making a wet spot.



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David - OR

09-08-2006 07:33:14




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 Re: OT: Yard hydrant in reply to Coloken, 09-08-2006 07:24:35  
I agree with Coloken. They should not leak when on.

But just to clarify; the yard hydrants may dribble a little water for a few seconds as they are first turned on, especially if the handle is moved slowly.

They should not "pee" water continuously out the drain hole once the handle is fully on. This would be just asking for trouble.

In this era of backflow preventers and rampant regulatory fear over cross contamination, I suspect that the yard hydrants may no longer meet plumbing codes....

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Stan in Oly, WA

09-08-2006 11:51:34




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 Re: OT: Yard hydrant in reply to David - OR, 09-08-2006 07:33:14  
Hi David,

"Rampant regulatory fear" is a great phrase. It's too bad that it can't be used as a petroleum substitute; I see no shortage in the foreseeable future.

All the best, Stan



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Allan In NE

09-08-2006 06:47:12




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 Re: OT: Yard hydrant in reply to Sam (MO), 09-08-2006 06:02:19  
Hi Sam,

Yep, that be normal.

When you shut off the hydrant the drain allows any water in the standpipe to drain back down and protect it from freezing.

So, if you have the hydrant "on", she's dribblin' underground also.

Allan



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paul

09-08-2006 07:37:11




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 Re: OT: Yard hydrant in reply to Allan In NE, 09-08-2006 06:47:12  
That would seem wrong to me. The ball should pivot to open water flow, & close off the weep hole. When you turn it off, it should close the pressure side of the pipe, and let water drain out of the vertical pipe through the weep hole.

It should not dribble water while flow is going through it. other than a possible tiny bit for a second as things pivot.

--->Paul



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