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Pat H

09-06-2006 18:28:35




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Does anyone know of a submersible shallow well pump that will fit in a 2" well. Only have to go 25 to 30 ft deep. Will only be used for watering livestock, want submersible so pump freezing wont happen. Thanks, Pat




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T_Bone

09-08-2006 06:49:48




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 Re: well pump in reply to Pat H, 09-06-2006 18:28:35  
Hi Pat,

At 15ft are you sure the water is potable for livestock? Have you tested it? I think your going to have surface water contamintion not even fit for livestock use. Here they spec the first 10ft at 8" pipe bore with concrete back fill on a 4ftx4ftx6" concrete slope away pad. I would look up your State spec's for your useage. In the back of my mine, I seam to remember a 40ft minimum static head rule, so about a 60ft minimum shaft depth on a cased bore.

You've severely limited your choices with a 2" bore. Increase the bore size to 4" as then you have a pump choice. This can be done easy by hand since you have a existing 2" bore.

The next best would be build a under ground room, much like a the root cellars used to be with the bore inside the cellar. You would only need to be 1ft deeper than your frost line.

Anything less than 250ft you can use a venturia pump that never needs serviced and requires no electrical into the bore. They run about $500 denpending on the volume you want.

T_Bone

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Stan in Oly, WA

09-08-2006 11:40:14




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 Re: well pump in reply to T_Bone, 09-08-2006 06:49:48  
Hi Ken,

"You've severely limited your choices with a 2" bore. Increase the bore size to 4" as then you have a pump choice. This can be done easy by hand since you have a existing 2" bore."

I'm interested in how it can be done easily by hand. I feel like this is the type of not too technical problem that I should be able to figure out for myself, but so far nothing has occurred to me.

Thanks, Stan

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pat h

09-08-2006 11:06:18




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 Re: well pump in reply to T_Bone, 09-08-2006 06:49:48  
yep. its potable, less than 3 ppb atrazine, nitrates low enough that I'm not worried. Sheep pretty tolerant anyway.Dont have the cash flow now to put down a 4" casing. Maybe after the soybeans are sold can spend for a new well.An underground pump pit against code - they worry pit will flood and contaminate well I guess. Thanks for all the replies, Pat



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VaTom

09-08-2006 05:02:32




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 Re: well pump in reply to Pat H, 09-06-2006 18:28:35  
Hi Pat,

As you probably know, 3 3/4" is standard. Far as I know only Grundfos makes a smaller one, which I use. But it's not small enough for you. 2 3/4", if memory serves. I'll measure my spare when I go to the shop later.



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oldfarmtractor

09-07-2006 13:49:47




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 Re: well pump in reply to Pat H, 09-06-2006 18:28:35  
I sure don't know if that submersible pump will fit down there, they are typically designed for larger casings. How about some type of pump used for a fountain. They might fit down there, are rather low flow and should be able to be designed to drain when done pumping.



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jmixigo

09-07-2006 09:45:03




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 Re: well pump in reply to Pat H, 09-06-2006 18:28:35  
I'm going to reply in the hope that somebody else will correct me.
I have never seen a submersable shallow well pump.
A submersable deep well pump might work but would be expensive.
You might consider an "irrigation" type demand pump with no tank or regulator to deal with and use the savings to build a pump house heated by a 300 watt bulb.
Would depend on how far north you are, but a 300 will heat a pump house if you keep it small and tight.

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Pat H

09-07-2006 12:18:10




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 Re: well pump in reply to jmixigo, 09-07-2006 09:45:03  
Thanks for the reply, I'm in Wis so - 20* F. is possible. The water table is within 15ft of surface where I want to do this but didn't want a pump or tank on the surface if I could help it. Thanks again, Pat



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